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unfortunately, critics are useless...
also... the difference b/w LRP and OOT on that site is HUGE.
also... the difference b/w LRP and OOT on that site is HUGE.
Originally Posted by Happy Camper /img/forum/go_quote.gif By this time, rock was dead. |
Originally Posted by priest /img/forum/go_quote.gif ...critics are more trustworthy than a site like that, which tends to reinforce itself in an endless feedback loop. |
Originally Posted by priest /img/forum/go_quote.gif Again, what are you basing this statement on? In order for you or he to be right, you have to prove your point. It's not true simply because you say so. |
Originally Posted by bong /img/forum/go_quote.gif There's also Trouser Press Record Guide, which has been one of the most respected record guides when it comes to Indie and Alternative music: TrouserPress.com :: R.E.M. "Adding keyboards, strings and horns to adjust the style settings even further, R.E.M. (also employing touring member Peter Holsapple, post-dB's/pre-Continental Drifters, on guitar and bass) challenged audience expectations and themselves further with the ambitious, overproduced (again by Litt and the band) and inconsistent Out of Time. The numbers that work—"Radio Song" (with guest rap by KRS-One), the folk-rocking "Losing My Religion," the uplifting "Shiny Happy People" (with Kate Pierson of the B-52's chiming in), the acoustic "Half a World Away," "Me in Honey"—effectively progress from (or at least uphold) Green's forthright example and are almost enough to carry the weight. The other half of the album, however, drags with material that is either too weak to withstand gummy layers of gratuitous instrumentation or falls prey to gimmicky concept experiments. "Low," "Endgame" and "Country Feedback" are blandly negligible; the happyface pop of "Near Wild Heaven" and the sung/recited "Belong" are ineffectual in their willful incongruity. Out of Time has too many important songs to ignore, but it's a dismal reminder of what happens when too many people tell creative musicians how great they are." ... I personally like Out of Time, I think it's a great pop record regardless if it was made by REM or not, but it seems as if records like Automatic for the People and Murmur still has universal praise, and speaks to people at a deeper level. |
Originally Posted by userlander /img/forum/go_quote.gif I don't think anyone has ever claimed that Out of Time is a better record than Murmur! Or even AFP. As for the Trouser Press review, I think the moody "Low" is one of the best songs on the album, and Belong is more than competent, too. It's not at the level of LMReligion or Half a World Away, but it's definitely not "dismal." I also think it's strange that the review can talk about the "willful incongruity" of songs like Belong and Low, and yet mention Losing My Religion in the same breath with Radio Song and Shiny Happy People. Those two songs are about as incongruous as you can get with LMR -- as is Me In Honey, which I think is actually closer in sense and structure to Belong than to LMReligion. Also notice what they say there about Fables and Life's Rich Pageant. They pretty much pan both albums (rightly so, probably), except for a few notable standouts like Driver 8 and Fall on Me. I don't think you can say they rate those albums higher than OOT, unlike those "fan" sites, like in the other link to "Allmusic." LRP and Fables over Green? Probably not, unless you've been smoking way too much green. |