high-fidelity
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Which is better surely ? IE800 or SE846 ? I'm so curious about 846. I currently have IE800.
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I much preferred the SE846 to the IE800, and I thought the IE800's were great but realized they're not incredible vs other top flight universals with time.
Is 846 incredible ?
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They're my favorite universal, so yes
Thank you for the very thorough review. May I say that many on these forums prefer elevated highs which, in some cases, appear to provide more details or microdynamics - whichever way they express it. One cannot help but be concerned about losses they report in their hearing that is validated by their preferences. Those with severely damaged hearing are likely to be the first to object to my noticing. I'm referring to those who only listen to studio, metal or electronic music v. acoustic music, voices and instruments, recorded in real spaces. I believe that one cannot tell anything about high end components not knowing the sound of the live in various - many - rooms. If one cannot tell apart the differences between one violin v. another, or one Steinway piano vis-a-vis another, one cannot tell much about components other than bloviating personal opinions. Then you have others who cannot afford a product and try to diminish it for that very transparent reason. Usually, not always, there is a reason for the prices and Shure was never a company to overcharge...too many others do exactly that.
Your review however appears accurate, as I do have Audeze and the Shure 535 here; again, it is useful and thanks for going through the trouble.
These comments btw, not that any of it matters much in these forums, come from a former professional rock n' roller who also studied serious music and worked in a recording studio. The company Shure is an old one and is highly respected in the pro community for good reasons: manufacturing products with the kind of accurate response pros demand.
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May I ask where on earth you find 24/192kbps music from? + since I mainly use spotify and 360kbps if I were to either of these would the music sound bad? Or is the difference negligible?
Many thanks.
I think a good start for anyone to explore whether lossy vs. lossless has any significant importance to you is the Philips Golden Ears challenge. On the "Silver Ears" level you'll find a challenge named "Details - MP3 Artefacts". The toughest test in that challenge is to be able to identify a 128 Kbps MP3. For me (and several others) that was the toughest challenge to finally be able to get my Philips Golden Ears. So, I've decided to stick to 160 Kbps AAC files on my iDevices. It works really well for me as no matter how much I focus or what gear I use it's impossible for me to tell the difference between 160 Kbps AAC and lossless. Of course YMMV, so take your time to investigate it.
BTW, here is some interesting reading from an article:
“I discovered he just imported his entire 2,000 CD collection into iTunes at 160 kbs AAC VBR, and then gave away his CDs.”
The complete article here.