A bit of a Head-Fi Disaster- Emergency Help Needed If Possible...

Nov 12, 2006 at 7:02 PM Post #46 of 92
I'll agree with ATX, except for the racially tinged thugs comment.

You can't claim poverty when you have a months rent on your head, you can only claim stupidity. Of course, RoyJones has more than admitted this much as well.

Hope everything goes well. I do think splitting the cost of repair is the most sensible, with a waiting period set if suitables drivers are not found. After say 60 days a full refund should be accepted.
 
Nov 12, 2006 at 8:23 PM Post #47 of 92
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Originally Posted by Coltrane
I'll agree with ATX, except for the racially tinged thugs comment.

You can't claim poverty when you have a months rent on your head, you can only claim stupidity. Of course, RoyJones has more than admitted this much as well.

Hope everything goes well. I do think splitting the cost of repair is the most sensible, with a waiting period set if suitables drivers are not found. After say 60 days a full refund should be accepted.



And where will the money come from for a full refund? So no one has drivers?
 
Nov 12, 2006 at 8:34 PM Post #48 of 92
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Originally Posted by juzmister
And where will the money come from for a full refund? So no one has drivers?



Walmart?

Seriously, if a set of drivers cannot be found, then it seems the fair thing to do to end this disaster if you're not willing to give a full refund is to refund half the price of the headphones and be done with the matter. Otherwise it will just drag on and on and on.
 
Nov 12, 2006 at 8:40 PM Post #49 of 92
If the box was not damaged there is no telling if boxing it up even more would have helped. For all we know it fell to the runway when they were loading it into the plane. No amount of reasonable packing would absorb the G forces from a fall like that. And if you are (un)lucky a 12 foot drop wont leave a mark/chrush damage, but the the G force can still cause damage. With insurance there were always the chance that the damage would be covered. It is not up to the reciver to determin if the packing was good or bad. It is the postal Service once you file a claim.
Hell, the shipment could have been stolen or lost!

No insurance on an item that expensive is just plain foolish by the buyer.
 
Nov 12, 2006 at 8:41 PM Post #50 of 92
Hi,

I am the seller.

I am not willing to refund that much cash, I don't have the money. I have completely agreed to pay for half of the repair, and I have done as much as I can. I organized for someone to have a look at them in the states, and he offered a cheap repair job; I would hardly call myself a terrible seller. I'm also looking in other places for L3000 drivers, but they are not the easiest things to find.

Worst case scenario we could put some CD3000 drivers or W100 drivers in there and I would pay for half the market difference to W3000s...I am not trying to sound like an ogor here, but it was both of our faults, I should not be held 100% responsible.

I packed them to what I thought was a suitable level. With a drop of 4-5 feet packaging would not have saved them, but I am still willing to help out even though these were not insured. I should have said no insurance, no deal, but I didn't...I guess I learn't a lesson for next time.
 
Nov 12, 2006 at 8:48 PM Post #51 of 92
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Originally Posted by philodox
At least he's not taking money out of his student loan to finance his drugdealing roomates business... like I did in College.
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Give Rob a break, he is a nice guy and is looking for advice and help here. Take your negative ******** somewhere else. I am sure that he will learn from this experience without your comments. What exactly are you trying to prove here?



What? Yeah, I guess it's better to have be fiscally irresponsible with headphones than dealing drugs...didn't know we were comparing degrees of idiocy. So, its okay to tell me to take my negative ******** somewhere else but NOT okay to post my opinion. Another example of the "thought police" disguised as humanitarian, liberal do-gooders. Okay, he's a nice guy (didn't say he wasn't)....still made a bonehead descision to buy REALLY expensive headphones and an amp in college with bills pending.

What am I trying to prove? Nothing. Did I need to prove something? What are you trying to prove with your comments? I'll offer up any darned opinion I like on a public forum. I was neither offensive (unlike your post), nor did I attack his personal character.
I'm amazed how real life is construed as negative and harsh...
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Nov 12, 2006 at 8:55 PM Post #52 of 92
Maybe you can consider taking them apart to check on the connections... these are frankenstein headphones so it should not make a difference if you open them up again. I'm just saying this because headphones are pretty durable and I highly doubt the driver would physically get damaged in the shipping process. I think the driver itself just may have been rattle loose off of the connection.
 
Nov 12, 2006 at 11:45 PM Post #53 of 92
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Originally Posted by AdamP
Maybe you can consider taking them apart to check on the connections... these are frankenstein headphones so it should not make a difference if you open them up again. I'm just saying this because headphones are pretty durable and I highly doubt the driver would physically get damaged in the shipping process. I think the driver itself just may have been rattle loose off of the connection.


This is a really good point. This whole thing seems strange to me considering the above mentioned statements which I agree with. How can any headphone not withstand a fall of 4-5 feet? Even a headphone with no packaging, if dropped, could withstand damage simply due to the fact that the drivers are not usually exposed. If somehow the drivers were exposed then any damage that would occur would be more severe. For example, if the driver was somehow punctured. But if the driver was covered it's hard to see how this could happen. If one driver is lower volume this could very well be a faulty connection issue. If it is not then it could be due to the use of mismatched drivers which the seller may or may not have been aware of. Usually damage will cause distortion, so if there is no distortion then first check the connections and wiring situation and if no physical damage is present to the drivers, then the drivers were probably mismatched to begin with.
 
Nov 13, 2006 at 12:02 AM Post #54 of 92
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Originally Posted by konish
I could not agree with ATX more. Kid buys crazy expensive headphones when he knows he has a bill due at semester...and (oh by the way) and amp to boot. Then he posts this as an "emergency". Emotionally drained over the experience? Literally broke? I understand college kids are prone to do stupid stuff (having been one myself a decade ago), but come on.

I'm not sure I necessarily have an issue with donating money...its a personal decision, nor do I think the kid is wrong asking for advice. I was just disgusted at the level of drama in his original post.

And for those of those who believe posts like this are pessimistic, unfair, stressful to the OP...its a public forum. If he has the stones to post a drama like this, then he needs to brace for impact. Like an old CO of mine used to say, "most people give themselves just enough rope to hang with". Probably should have planned for more rope in this instance so he could pull himself out instead of hanging.
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next time I'm down remind me to post here so you can give me a good kick in the stones because that is apparently what public forums are for.
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Kid messed up under most situations he would have been ok a random crap happened and now he asked for an assist and offered to donate to the forum if some located drivers that he is willing to pay for I just don;t get the pile on but whatever.
 
Nov 13, 2006 at 12:02 AM Post #55 of 92
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Originally Posted by juzmister
I packed them to what I thought was a suitable level. With a drop of 4-5 feet packaging would not have saved them, but I am still willing to help out even though these were not insured. I should have said no insurance, no deal, but I didn't...I guess I learn't a lesson for next time.


Shipping without insurance is not a problem. The problem arises when you don't talk over who has the responsibility in the event of a lost or damaged item beforehand. I frequently buy/sell without insurance, but I make sure that the seller/buyer knows who's responsibility it is. That way, there's no pointing fingers when something goes wrong.
 
Nov 13, 2006 at 12:33 AM Post #56 of 92
I read and then re-read through all of the posts, focusing on the OP's post and it sounds like he is asking for potential solutions - I heard a couple including further inspection of the headphones and the most important one - that the seller was willing to pay 1/2 the charges for repair. Also if the drivers are compromised then getting some drivers and installing them is the final final solution.

Does this end it or what?
 
Nov 13, 2006 at 2:23 AM Post #57 of 92
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Originally Posted by konish
So, its okay to tell me to take my negative ******** somewhere else but NOT okay to post my opinion.


Yep, pretty much. A human being is asking for help because he is in poor straits. You being judgemental of him might be helpfull after the fact, but it doesn't really do much for him right now does it?

PS. The censored word was bull$hit. My post was not meant to be offensive. Get off your high horse.
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Nov 13, 2006 at 4:22 AM Post #58 of 92
where is the OP?

if you are close at all to me I can take a look at them for no charge... just shipping... if you do manage to get the drivers and its a fairly straight forward thing I can install them also for just shipping...
 
Nov 13, 2006 at 5:11 AM Post #59 of 92
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Originally Posted by philodox
Yep, pretty much. A human being is asking for help because he is in poor straits. You being judgemental of him might be helpfull after the fact, but it doesn't really do much for him right now does it?

PS. The censored word was bull$hit. My post was not meant to be offensive. Get off your high horse.
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Uh, yeah...I know the word was B.S. (count the number of asteriks in my reply). Talk about judgemental, and even a taller horse. I'll tell ya, maybe you ought to take your advice about what to post and what not to post.
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Anyway, like I said before, I'll post whatever I darned well feel about the subject.

Guess what...I don't really want to do anything for him. Sorry, but I just can't get into circling the wagons for this kid...I know, I know, a poor, defenseless, human being is in big trouble...I'm a monster.

What? Like two or three people offer some other opinion other than rallying this kid and its considered a "pile on"...whatever, indeed.
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Nov 13, 2006 at 5:29 AM Post #60 of 92
You keep calling him a kid. How old are you?

Perhaps we are seeing things differently here because I know him in person and understand where he is coming from with his post. I don't want to get into a pissing match with you here. I think your attitude is pretty jaded and self centred, but that’s your prerogative.
 

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