634EARS: Impressions, Discussions, and Appreciations Thread
Feb 27, 2024 at 5:48 AM Post #586 of 677
Need help. Of these, which should I choose for miroak-ii ? (Teak, Bamboo (laminated wood), African Padauk, and Black Walnut.)


Edit: I let the seller choose it for me. Too confusing!

------
Need help. Of these, which wood should I choose for miroak-ii ? (Teak, Bamboo (laminated wood), African Padauk, and Black Walnut.) Only these are available in my use case.

Looking for classily done bass, spacious warm mids..

Any particular thing from top or all more or less same?

Thanks.

I would suggest taking a look at this article:


https://blog.634ears.com/en/blog/202402-wood1/

Selecting wood (material) for the rear enclosure – Part 1​

  • ブログ
  • BLOG
  • Selecting wood (material) for the rear enclosure – Part 1
Let me explain again about the difference in sound based on the selection of wood or metal for the backplate of the rear housing, as I have mentioned several times before.
The materials for the backplate are very diverse, and wood varies from piece to piece. Therefore, instead of individually discussing each piece of wood, I believe it’s easier to understand how the sound changes based on the hardness and density of the material.
To begin with, it’s important to understand the basic role of the rear housing.

Role of the Rear Housing:​

The housing of earphones is divided into front and rear by the dynamic driver.
This time, I will explain about the rear housing behind the driver.
1-2-300x171.jpg

The interior of the rear housing plays a role similar to a spring, moving the diaphragm by the air inside the housing, and by compressing and rebounding the air inside the rear housing due to the movement of the diaphragm, it affects the degree of movement of the diaphragm.
I often liken the rear housing to instruments like drums or percussion. The diaphragm is like the drum head, and the drum shell (body) is like the side walls of the rear housing, while the bottom is akin to the backplate.
drum-1.jpg
drum2.jpg


Now, what kind of changes in movement would occur in the diaphragm depending on whether the rear housing material is “hard,” “soft,” “high density,” or “low density”?

Hard Material:​

If the rear housing material is hard, the material of the housing does not deform due to the pressure of the air inside the rear housing when the diaphragm moves, so the air rebounds quickly and sharply.
As a result, the diaphragm moves quickly and finely. This kind of diaphragm movement makes it easier to produce tight, high-resolution, clear sounds with a fast attack and precise contours.
9565af44509791330a1bd91972c62f6a.jpg

Soft Material:​

If the rear housing material is soft, the material of the housing is easily deformed by the pressure of the air inside the rear housing when the diaphragm moves, so the air rebounds slowly and gently.
Consequently, the diaphragm moves slowly and broadly. This kind of diaphragm movement tends to produce thicker sounds, particularly enriching the mid to low range. However, compared to hard materials, the contours of the sound might be less sharp, giving a slightly softer impression.
e15d012a4842f7c209c49896b64eeff5.jpg

High Density:​

If the rear housing material has high density, it strongly rebounds against the pressure of the air inside the rear housing when the diaphragm moves. This means that the spring of the air inside the rear housing becomes stronger.
Therefore, the diaphragm moves strongly and broadly. This kind of diaphragm movement tends to increase the sound pressure, resulting in powerful sounds. However, it also tends to produce more pronounced attacks and peaks.
f581b3cf65ce133e8ec0a0b7b61f2d75.jpg

Low Density:​

If the density inside the rear housing is low, some of the pressure of the air inside the rear housing is absorbed by the material when the diaphragm moves, reducing the air rebound. This means that the spring of the air inside the rear housing becomes weaker.
Therefore, the diaphragm moves gently and slightly. This kind of diaphragm movement makes it easier to produce soft and gentle sounds. As a result, the sound pressure is restrained, especially the bass tends to be more subdued.
b5bca0ec964be6e7afd0c86873d23796.jpg


Comparative List of Wood Hardness and Density:​

Taking these into account, let’s look at the list of woods commonly used in 634EARS, which are rated for hardness and density on a scale of 1 to 10.
867df6c885093f2c3f521260421bdd26-1.jpg

*These figures are known at this time and may change in the future.
Until now, I have used the criterion of “specific gravity,” but now I use the criterion of “density” because it is not the same as actual density.
These values are actually quantified based on my own experience and feel of cutting and shaving wood.
In addition, the “Dry” and “Oil” items are described for wood that is particularly dry or oily.
A-E group similar items based on hardness.
F is a special wood (material).
The table is designed to give you an idea of the hardness and density of the wood and how it will sound in comparison to other woods.

Please note:​

While the list quantifies the hardness and density of the wood and makes it easier to grasp the sound image, there are some points to consider.
The differences in sound due to hardness and density are only applicable when compared to “other woods.”
For example, using Snakewood, which has a hardness of 10, does not necessarily mean that it will exhibit the characteristic sound of hard woods (high resolution, clear, sharp, tight).
It means that compared to woods with hardness ranging from 7 to 9, such as Cocobolo, it will have a sound characteristic of harder woods.
Therefore, the sound tendency of the wood alone cannot be clearly understood since it depends on the base earphones and individual perceptions. It can only be used as a guide to compare what kind of sound it will produce compared to other woods.
So, it’s not possible to answer the question, “What kind of sound does this wood produce?” Instead, it’s possible to answer questions like, “If this wood is used in a headphone called XYZ, how does it compare to Indian Rosewood in terms of sound?”
This was the most basic explanation, so next time, based on this, I would like to delve a little deeper into the explanation.
 
Feb 27, 2024 at 6:02 AM Post #587 of 677

I would suggest taking a look at this article:


https://blog.634ears.com/en/blog/202402-wood1/

Selecting wood (material) for the rear enclosure – Part 1​


  • ブログ
  • BLOG
  • Selecting wood (material) for the rear enclosure – Part 1
Let me explain again about the difference in sound based on the selection of wood or metal for the backplate of the rear housing, as I have mentioned several times before.
The materials for the backplate are very diverse, and wood varies from piece to piece. Therefore, instead of individually discussing each piece of wood, I believe it’s easier to understand how the sound changes based on the hardness and density of the material.
To begin with, it’s important to understand the basic role of the rear housing.

Role of the Rear Housing:​

The housing of earphones is divided into front and rear by the dynamic driver.
This time, I will explain about the rear housing behind the driver.
1-2-300x171.jpg

The interior of the rear housing plays a role similar to a spring, moving the diaphragm by the air inside the housing, and by compressing and rebounding the air inside the rear housing due to the movement of the diaphragm, it affects the degree of movement of the diaphragm.
I often liken the rear housing to instruments like drums or percussion. The diaphragm is like the drum head, and the drum shell (body) is like the side walls of the rear housing, while the bottom is akin to the backplate.
drum-1.jpg
drum2.jpg


Now, what kind of changes in movement would occur in the diaphragm depending on whether the rear housing material is “hard,” “soft,” “high density,” or “low density”?

Hard Material:​

If the rear housing material is hard, the material of the housing does not deform due to the pressure of the air inside the rear housing when the diaphragm moves, so the air rebounds quickly and sharply.
As a result, the diaphragm moves quickly and finely. This kind of diaphragm movement makes it easier to produce tight, high-resolution, clear sounds with a fast attack and precise contours.
9565af44509791330a1bd91972c62f6a.jpg

Soft Material:​

If the rear housing material is soft, the material of the housing is easily deformed by the pressure of the air inside the rear housing when the diaphragm moves, so the air rebounds slowly and gently.
Consequently, the diaphragm moves slowly and broadly. This kind of diaphragm movement tends to produce thicker sounds, particularly enriching the mid to low range. However, compared to hard materials, the contours of the sound might be less sharp, giving a slightly softer impression.
e15d012a4842f7c209c49896b64eeff5.jpg

High Density:​

If the rear housing material has high density, it strongly rebounds against the pressure of the air inside the rear housing when the diaphragm moves. This means that the spring of the air inside the rear housing becomes stronger.
Therefore, the diaphragm moves strongly and broadly. This kind of diaphragm movement tends to increase the sound pressure, resulting in powerful sounds. However, it also tends to produce more pronounced attacks and peaks.
f581b3cf65ce133e8ec0a0b7b61f2d75.jpg

Low Density:​

If the density inside the rear housing is low, some of the pressure of the air inside the rear housing is absorbed by the material when the diaphragm moves, reducing the air rebound. This means that the spring of the air inside the rear housing becomes weaker.
Therefore, the diaphragm moves gently and slightly. This kind of diaphragm movement makes it easier to produce soft and gentle sounds. As a result, the sound pressure is restrained, especially the bass tends to be more subdued.
b5bca0ec964be6e7afd0c86873d23796.jpg


Comparative List of Wood Hardness and Density:​

Taking these into account, let’s look at the list of woods commonly used in 634EARS, which are rated for hardness and density on a scale of 1 to 10.
867df6c885093f2c3f521260421bdd26-1.jpg

*These figures are known at this time and may change in the future.
Until now, I have used the criterion of “specific gravity,” but now I use the criterion of “density” because it is not the same as actual density.
These values are actually quantified based on my own experience and feel of cutting and shaving wood.
In addition, the “Dry” and “Oil” items are described for wood that is particularly dry or oily.
A-E group similar items based on hardness.
F is a special wood (material).
The table is designed to give you an idea of the hardness and density of the wood and how it will sound in comparison to other woods.

Please note:​

While the list quantifies the hardness and density of the wood and makes it easier to grasp the sound image, there are some points to consider.
The differences in sound due to hardness and density are only applicable when compared to “other woods.”
For example, using Snakewood, which has a hardness of 10, does not necessarily mean that it will exhibit the characteristic sound of hard woods (high resolution, clear, sharp, tight).
It means that compared to woods with hardness ranging from 7 to 9, such as Cocobolo, it will have a sound characteristic of harder woods.
Therefore, the sound tendency of the wood alone cannot be clearly understood since it depends on the base earphones and individual perceptions. It can only be used as a guide to compare what kind of sound it will produce compared to other woods.
So, it’s not possible to answer the question, “What kind of sound does this wood produce?” Instead, it’s possible to answer questions like, “If this wood is used in a headphone called XYZ, how does it compare to Indian Rosewood in terms of sound?”
This was the most basic explanation, so next time, based on this, I would like to delve a little deeper into the explanation.
Thanks. Went with padouk, with his suggestion.
 
Feb 29, 2024 at 3:47 PM Post #588 of 677
Finally the Miroak II Purple heart are on their way to my house... what tips do you recommend I use?
 
Feb 29, 2024 at 4:31 PM Post #589 of 677
Finally the Miroak II Purple heart are on their way to my house... what tips do you recommend I use?
Azla vivid edition and Ibasso DC03 pro
 
Mar 1, 2024 at 12:51 AM Post #592 of 677
Really like the look of these. Keeping in mind for my next purchase...
 
Mar 1, 2024 at 1:03 AM Post #593 of 677
Finally the Miroak II Purple heart are on their way to my house... what tips do you recommend I use?
How are they? First impressions boss before you start to do your thing, trying to electrocute em with your elaborate supplementary rigs and circuits and multihubs :)

Edit: oh on the way... Cool
 
Last edited:
Mar 1, 2024 at 2:34 AM Post #595 of 677
Spinfit W1 & Omni
AZLA SE1000 (Fitear purple version, can purchased from fujiya avic or e earphone)


These eartips works fine with my current 634s. I'm still wating for my Loak Prototype 02.
I have Fitear Sedna SE1000 and it’s exactly Azla Vivid edition, Azla confirmed me that.
 
Mar 4, 2024 at 5:27 AM Post #597 of 677
634ears.jpg


Land... they will need a good run-in but their good character is already evident...
 
Mar 4, 2024 at 7:49 AM Post #598 of 677
634w4.jpg


IEM with an extremely relaxed and full-bodied sound, with very extended and nuanced bass and truly natural mids, but not congested and muddy as this type of sound is likely to be on other IEMs. They are also suitable for pairing with quite bright DACs that they can easily keep at bay... made to play for hours and hours without tiring the listener in the slightest... it was what I was looking for and (fortunately) what I got. Synergy is everything... we've noticed it for a while now... now they are playing with a defined and extended DAC that is more synergistic with their tuning and they respond very well to the change in tone and characteristics of the various DACs. This is a very positive thing that not all single DDs have, that is, they change character depending on the DAC you connect them to, many instead have a defined character that doesn't change much depending on the DAC, but which therefore becomes boring in the short term. They will certainly open up more on the highs but I don't think they will distort their nature which makes the full, relaxed, organic and musical sound their peculiarity. Honestly, from the opinions on the forum, I expected an even more relaxed sound, but this is not the case and the soundstage certainly doesn't reach the width of the top performers, but it doesn't feel claustrophobic or particularly small either. The speed of the driver is excellent, you can notice it from the mids, but the decay of the bass is deliberately slow, soft and controlled... in short, if I had to describe them with one word... that word would be softness.

P.S. with Jazz they are simply fantastic (for my taste).
 
Mar 4, 2024 at 9:55 AM Post #599 of 677


IEM with an extremely relaxed and full-bodied sound, with very extended and nuanced bass and truly natural mids, but not congested and muddy as this type of sound is likely to be on other IEMs. They are also suitable for pairing with quite bright DACs that they can easily keep at bay... made to play for hours and hours without tiring the listener in the slightest... it was what I was looking for and (fortunately) what I got. Synergy is everything... we've noticed it for a while now... now they are playing with a defined and extended DAC that is more synergistic with their tuning and they respond very well to the change in tone and characteristics of the various DACs. This is a very positive thing that not all single DDs have, that is, they change character depending on the DAC you connect them to, many instead have a defined character that doesn't change much depending on the DAC, but which therefore becomes boring in the short term. They will certainly open up more on the highs but I don't think they will distort their nature which makes the full, relaxed, organic and musical sound their peculiarity. Honestly, from the opinions on the forum, I expected an even more relaxed sound, but this is not the case and the soundstage certainly doesn't reach the width of the top performers, but it doesn't feel claustrophobic or particularly small either. The speed of the driver is excellent, you can notice it from the mids, but the decay of the bass is deliberately slow, soft and controlled... in short, if I had to describe them with one word... that word would be softness.

P.S. with Jazz they are simply fantastic (for my taste).

Nice review and my Miroak II Japan ed. sounds similar. What jumped out at me was your mentioning the lack of muddiness. Yeah, absolutely. When I listen to these iems it always strikes me how well controlled the sound is, from top to bottom. Listening to some high end iems I sometimes feel like I can hear the whole committee of people that had to agree on the sound... like a film with too many producers and writers that ends up with muddied dialogue and a plot that doesnt quite fit together. But with the Miroak everything is so clear and obviously intentional... and well balanced for sure. Its somehow a bass monster, has really crisp, nice, never approaching sibilant treble, and also clear mids. With just the single DD.
 
Mar 4, 2024 at 10:40 AM Post #600 of 677
Nice to see more appreciation for the Miroak-II, if I get time soon I will try and write a mini review for it. Its my faovorite single DD I have owned or tried, pure musical enjoyment :beyersmile:

Was about to use it as headline photo for my R8 II review, but plugged it in lineout port and that look off for people who know. Scrapped that idea then.

DSCF4225.jpg
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top