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Yes, they are nice looking. As for the metal, I'm not sure if it's real or not. I'm guessing that it is actually metal, based on how it feels when I scratch at it with my fingernail. Maybe Sugarfried can answer this for us. Quote:
I haven't heard the UM2, so I'm sorry that I'm unable to offer you an opinion on the question of how they compare. Since the UM2 is already on its way to you, please let us know what you think of it when you get it. Quote:
I've been comparing these two throughout the day (and will continue to over the next couple of weeks for my own sake), and so far the E4c comes out on top in almost every respect, to my ears. Quote:
On this we definitely agree. For earphones, the E4c is very good in this regard. Quote:
That it is. However, if one were to say the E5c delves a bit deeper, I'd have to say I agree. I do, however, enjoy the more controlled, more textured bass of the E4c more than I do the heavier E5c bass with most of the music I've been listening to. Quote:
This has been the opposite for me throughout the day. I've found the E4c casts more light on delicate details that the E5c leaves more shadow on, especially in the upper octaves, and in terms of ambient retrieval. Quote:
Again, my observations are definitely the opposite of yours in this specific regard, too. I find that across most of the audioband, the E4c is more timbrally expressive, giving up a bit of ground to the E5c in this aspect only in the lower registers. Quote:
Nah. This is simply the type of discussion that two Head-Fi'ers can have about any two or more good headphones. For example, Zanth (a veteran moderator here) really digs the Grado RS-1, and I get the impression he's certainly not as big a fan of, say, the Sennheiser HD650. I absolutely love the Sennheiser HD650, and, though I like the Grado RS-1 alot, it just can't compare, to my ears, to my reference HD650. I'm sure Zanth and I could have discussions about our favorite headphones that, in many ways, would echo the opinions of these two earphones that you and I have. Even if I was more experienced (I don't know that I necessarily am), my experience doesn't change what you're hearing.
Long story short on my early impressions of the E4c: In addition to other earphones, I have the E5c and the E4c, and I'd be surprised if I end up reaching for the E5c much anymore -- or my Etymotics, for that matter. I'm going to be getting ear impressions made soon for use with a two-driver earphone from a manufacturer I hadn't previously heard of that recently contacted me to help evaluate this upcoming earphone of theirs. At least until then (and it could be a while still), the E4c is taking up residence in my portable office bag as my primary earphone.
NOTE: Most of my comparisons so far between the E5c and the E4c were done using a prototype of an upcoming tube amplifier by Eddie Current called the DM-1 (Dual Mono 1). The reason I used this amp is because (a) it sounds awesome with everything I've plugged into it so far, and (b) it's one of the few amps I've paired with the E5c that didn't make the E5c hiss at all.
| Originally Posted by mr.karmalicious ....those look excellent. Is that real metal? How's the treble?... |
Yes, they are nice looking. As for the metal, I'm not sure if it's real or not. I'm guessing that it is actually metal, based on how it feels when I scratch at it with my fingernail. Maybe Sugarfried can answer this for us. Quote:
| Originally Posted by catscratch ....How does the e4c compare to the UM2?... ....Since I just pulled the trigger on some UM2's (they're not here yet), I'm wondering if I might have been better served by waiting for the e4c instead.... |
I haven't heard the UM2, so I'm sorry that I'm unable to offer you an opinion on the question of how they compare. Since the UM2 is already on its way to you, please let us know what you think of it when you get it. Quote:
| Originally Posted by bLue_oNioN I compared the E5s to the E4s and found the E5s to be superior.... |
I've been comparing these two throughout the day (and will continue to over the next couple of weeks for my own sake), and so far the E4c comes out on top in almost every respect, to my ears. Quote:
| Originally Posted by bLue_oNioN ....The E4s do have much more air and space to them.... |
On this we definitely agree. For earphones, the E4c is very good in this regard. Quote:
| Originally Posted by bLue_oNioN ....and the bass is very impactful.... |
That it is. However, if one were to say the E5c delves a bit deeper, I'd have to say I agree. I do, however, enjoy the more controlled, more textured bass of the E4c more than I do the heavier E5c bass with most of the music I've been listening to. Quote:
| Originally Posted by bLue_oNioN ....but there were details I heard in the E5s that I did not hear on the E4s.... |
This has been the opposite for me throughout the day. I've found the E4c casts more light on delicate details that the E5c leaves more shadow on, especially in the upper octaves, and in terms of ambient retrieval. Quote:
| Originally Posted by bLue_oNioN ....I also felt the E4 was lacking in timbre and texture when compared to the E5s.... |
Again, my observations are definitely the opposite of yours in this specific regard, too. I find that across most of the audioband, the E4c is more timbrally expressive, giving up a bit of ground to the E5c in this aspect only in the lower registers. Quote:
| Originally Posted by bLue_oNioN ....Jude has had considerably more experience than me though, so it is very likely that my perceptions were the result of an untrained ear. |
Nah. This is simply the type of discussion that two Head-Fi'ers can have about any two or more good headphones. For example, Zanth (a veteran moderator here) really digs the Grado RS-1, and I get the impression he's certainly not as big a fan of, say, the Sennheiser HD650. I absolutely love the Sennheiser HD650, and, though I like the Grado RS-1 alot, it just can't compare, to my ears, to my reference HD650. I'm sure Zanth and I could have discussions about our favorite headphones that, in many ways, would echo the opinions of these two earphones that you and I have. Even if I was more experienced (I don't know that I necessarily am), my experience doesn't change what you're hearing.
Long story short on my early impressions of the E4c: In addition to other earphones, I have the E5c and the E4c, and I'd be surprised if I end up reaching for the E5c much anymore -- or my Etymotics, for that matter. I'm going to be getting ear impressions made soon for use with a two-driver earphone from a manufacturer I hadn't previously heard of that recently contacted me to help evaluate this upcoming earphone of theirs. At least until then (and it could be a while still), the E4c is taking up residence in my portable office bag as my primary earphone.
NOTE: Most of my comparisons so far between the E5c and the E4c were done using a prototype of an upcoming tube amplifier by Eddie Current called the DM-1 (Dual Mono 1). The reason I used this amp is because (a) it sounds awesome with everything I've plugged into it so far, and (b) it's one of the few amps I've paired with the E5c that didn't make the E5c hiss at all.
