3 mics ranging from sub-$100 to $2000. Can you hear a difference? (Mention headphones used.)
Jan 6, 2015 at 6:43 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 47

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NOTE: The mics are revealed on post #32.​
 
We keep hearing about headphones and the diminishing returns one gets at around $200. Well, mics are almost exactly the same technology and they should be pretty much the same with the diminishing returns. Let's have a listen and see.
 
Three pairs of small diaphragm condenser mics of various prices were used to record a grand piano, placed a couple of feet away from and above the tail of the piano. The only processing I've done on these is remove the self noise, so that it doesn't get in the way.
 
Please, tell us your order of preference and, if you care, explain the reasons behind your preference. Also mention what headphones you used to listen to this (if you used speakers, mention that too.)
 
I will reveal the mics once we get enough feedback to have an idea what people prefer. This should be interesting!
 
 
(I couldn't upload the files, so I put it up on YouTube. Sorry if the quality is lacking. Let's judge it the way it is.)
 
http://youtu.be/azZkHjFRDTM
 
Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 AM Post #2 of 47
  We keep hearing about headphones and the diminishing returns one gets at around $200. Well, mics are almost exactly the same technology and they should be pretty much the same with the diminishing returns. Let's have a listen and see.
 
Three pairs of small diaphragm condenser mics of various prices were used to record a grand piano, placed a couple of feet away from and above the tail of the piano. The only processing I've done on these is remove the self noise, so that it doesn't get in the way.
 
Please, tell us your order of preference and, if you care, explain the reasons behind your preference. Also mention what headphones you used to listen to this (if you used speakers, mention that too.)
 
I will reveal the mics once we get enough feedback to have an idea what people prefer. This should be interesting!
 
 
(I couldn't upload the files, so I put it up on YouTube. Sorry if the quality is lacking. Let's judge it the way it is.)
 
http://youtu.be/azZkHjFRDTM

 
Are the tracks volume matched? Would be easier to have 3 separate tracks; you could put them as a zip on dropbox or google drive.
 
Jan 6, 2015 at 10:19 AM Post #3 of 47
They are volume matched. I don't use the cloud software you mentioned... I think this should be good enough. Most music gets down to this quality before it reaches the consumer these days anyway, so I think it's OK to proceed with the YouTube sample. 
 
Please, tell us your preference - A vs. B vs. C
 
Jan 6, 2015 at 10:29 AM Post #4 of 47
  They are volume matched. I don't use the cloud software you mentioned... I think this should be good enough. Most music gets down to this quality before it reaches the consumer these days anyway, so I think it's OK to proceed with the YouTube sample. 
 
Please, tell us your preference - A vs. B vs. C

 
No youtube is fine for quality, I just meant that switching quickly between files to hear sound differences is easier with separate files. Youtube search can be awfully slow :)
 
Jan 7, 2015 at 9:19 AM Post #7 of 47
  Let me make this test more interesting to you guys. These mics range from below $100 to around $2000. Can anyone hear a difference in quality?

 
C sounds the best to me, but it also doesn't have some of the clicking in the recording that A or B does.
 
BTW, here's the three files separately, trimmed of silence:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwmVtb5IwniELVJfVERnUVh0Ujg/view?usp=sharing
 
Jan 7, 2015 at 12:47 PM Post #8 of 47
Thanks a lot for participating, RRod, and for posting the files on dropbox. I really appreciate that!
 
I'd like to ask anyone else viewing this to please take a moment and comment as well. I promise that you will appreciate the knowledge you are likely to gain from this experiment. I'll create a final report with all of your preferences once we have enough input. It will be very enlightening. 
 
Jan 7, 2015 at 1:05 PM Post #9 of 47
I liked the third one, but that was largely due to the lack of the slight popping/clicking that the others contained (I wonder if this is an artifact of the noise removal you mentioned). Also, the performances sound slightly different to me, which makes it hard to compare.
 
Jan 7, 2015 at 1:50 PM Post #10 of 47
Thanks for participating, cjl. It's the same performance, recorded from the same distance. Pics are sensitive in various frequencies, so some pick up certain sounds like pedal noise and hammer strikes more than others. 
 
Jan 7, 2015 at 1:55 PM Post #11 of 47
If it's the same performance, how far apart is the mic location from each other? There are some pretty noticeable differences that I wouldn't have expected just from changing microphones.
 
Jan 7, 2015 at 1:56 PM Post #12 of 47
  Thanks for participating, cjl. It's the same performance, recorded from the same distance. Pics are sensitive in various frequencies, so some pick up certain sounds like pedal noise and hammer strikes more than others. 

 
I wasn't really hearing mechanical noises; like cjl I was hearing what sounded more like equipment (mic) or processing noise/pops. Also, C is, at least visually in Audacity, a bit faster than the other two:

 
Jan 7, 2015 at 2:10 PM Post #13 of 47
Oh, thanks for pointing that out. I don't know what happened during processing, of which I need nothing more than noise removal (Adobe Audition). Maybe I hit something by accident during export.
 
I think we can safely disregard that for the sake of proceeding with the test. It shouldn't take away much from the quality of the recording, I assume. 
 
Jan 7, 2015 at 2:17 PM Post #14 of 47
  Oh, thanks for pointing that out. I don't know what happened during processing, of which I need nothing more than noise removal (Adobe Audition). Maybe I hit something by accident during export.
 
I think we can safely disregard that for the sake of proceeding with the test. It shouldn't take away much from the quality of the recording, I assume. 

 
Yeah I still like C; the upper bass range especially. This is all very subjective, though.
 
Jan 12, 2015 at 3:50 PM Post #15 of 47
First, I'd like to say that I heard some audible noise in Mic A. 
After that, I couldn't tell that much of a difference between mics B and C, although (and it could very well be my imagination) it did seem like Mic C was a bit on the brighter side. 
B was my favorite.
 

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