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What the ***? How can you understand me that wrong?You seem to think that Music Theory is just sonata form or counterpoint, it isn’t.
Yes exactly and depending on what kind of music you create, you need certain parts of this long list. That's my whole point!Music theory is all the forms, binary form, tertiary form, rondo form, symphony, concerto and other forms, it also includes modern popular music forms, such as 12 bar blues, the verse/chorus form found in most pop music, etc.
Yes, and that's why the theory of fusion harmony contains what a chord is: You have a basic triad and then you use chord extensions and possibly doubling to have six parts.Can you start creating fusion harmony without knowing counterpoint or sonata form? Sure but you’re going to have a tough job without knowing what a chord is, at least some of the various chords, such as I, IV, V, Major or Minor or what harmony is, all of which were defined in the 1400’s by classical Music Theory.
Okay. I am not an expert of Bishara.All the Bishara music I’ve heard uses music theory extensively and John Williams could hardly use it more extensively!
Depends on how you define structure. A repeated loop in a techno track could be called a "structure", but it is nowhere near the same thing as sonata form being a "structure" for example.Does Tangerine Dream’s music use any structure/form at all? You think maybe it’s a structure/form completely unknown to Music Theory? What about chords, melodies, rhythms or synthesiser techniques? Seeing as most/all of them studied music theory when they were younger, it seems pretty unlikely they all forgot it completely and incorporated all that music theory unknowingly, by chance.
I haven't said they didn't/don't know music theory. At least they were influenced by classical music composers. I said their movie scores are completely different from John Williams. Obviously they apply music theory very differently from John Williams!
Certain fundamental parts as harmony and notation are part of movie music theory. How could they not be. The difference of movie music theory and classical music theory is how chord progressions work: Functional harmony vs. chord combinations to evoke emotion.Music Theory includes notation, harmony/tonality, structure/form, rhythm and melody. How many pieces of film music do you know that don’t include any of these things? Assuming the answer is none, then music theory is obviously always relevant to movie music!
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Also: All music composed for movie doesn't use only movie music theory. Good movie music composers know tons of theory and use it when needed. Movie music theory is a modern way of thinking about things to be used "with the older theories".
That said, this all started when I tried to encourage someone here to study music theory. It escalated in ways I don't like and the individual in question is possibly disencouraged off all of this! What is the point? Can't we just let this be?
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