Digitalchkn
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Here is my woofer.
Hmmm. Not up to audiophile standard just yet. Maybe after some burn-in frequency response will change to handle >20KHz.
Here is my woofer.
At some point it becomes radio waves and your stereo can receive it again, right?!
Here is my woofer.
Having passed my masters in digital signal processing with flying colors I respectfully disagree with you and that link. I can easily fit an infinite number of near sine waves into a set of samples at twice its frequency without even introducing the concept of sample phase. Introducing sample phase gives me yet another infinite set of this time absolutely perfect sine waves to choose from. Of course this assumes nobody cares about phase either in addition to amplitude. In fact, as sample phase approaches integer multiples of pi the variety of near-perfect sine waves that fit the samples approaches infinity. What this means is your filter must be dead nuts perfect to even have a chance of reconstructing one of an infinite number of phase shifted sine waves that 'might' be correct but absolutely is not with inverse probability to sample phase.
Sure, mathematically only one wave fits if: 1) sample phase is not a multiple of pi and 2) it is an absolute perfect sine wave and 3) you are assuming perfect brick wall filters with zero phase shift.
Unfortunately none of these conditions even remotely represent a real system in any way. Yours is a straw man argument that I won't argue with anymore... you can make believe whatever you want.
Can we elaborate on the term "quality equipment"? I hope there is an understanding that the dynamic range of waveforms shown on analog scopes is nowhere near that of even 16 bits.
There is no doubt in my mind the video is a great introduction into the subject. There are other details at play that requires more in-depth look. Hence, professors in IEEE.
Funny, how you can put all these signals through AD/DA conversion and recover them without problems. If you have an exact 22.050 khz sine wave, and you put another one in there, you could say you have two, of course you would have one twice as big. Unless you put in one out of phase in which case the samples of the new composite waveform would be different than before the addition. So no without a masters in DSP I don't get what you are positing here. I do get that the equipment works as it is said to work.
Yeah it is funny how it works... if you put two signals of the exact same frequency and amplitude in there out of phase you would indeed hear nothing. all three things, phase, frequency, and amplitude matter. simple math really.
Hmmm. Not up to audiophile standard just yet. Maybe after some burn-in frequency response will change to handle >20KHz.
What happened to it's eyes? What is this thing called? Is it yours bigshot? Have you burn it in yet?
By out of phase I didn't mean necessarily inverse phase, just not lined up in phase with each other. Could have been 1 degree out or 5 degrees or whatever including 180 out.
By out of phase I didn't mean necessarily inverse phase, just not lined up in phase with each other. Could have been 1 degree out or 5 degrees or whatever including 180 out. But yes that part of the math is quite simple.
180 out of phase will give silence. using matlab you should see what waveforms you get adding two identical waves only out of phase with each other. try it for a variety of different phases. i think what you are imagining is how the ears are able to remove the significance of phase between signals to some extent, but of course not entirely. coming from different locations like speakers and into different ears at different times your brain is able to pretend phase is not as important as it is however the effects of signals being out of phase is certainly heard for example many have witnessed nodes of high and low volume depending on the placement of their subwoofers in a room and relative to each other. invert one pair of wires going into one ear of your headphones and you will quite clearly hear the difference. certainly 2 signals 180 degrees out of phase being put out by the same transducer and you will not hear a thing. this is actually the basis for noise canceling circuitry of some headphones.
Believe it or not, the eyes are open in this picture. They are just teeny and tight together. This is "Pickles" and she burns me plenty!
By out of phase I didn't mean necessarily inverse phase, just not lined up in phase with each other. Could have been 1 degree out or 5 degrees or whatever including 180 out. But yes that part of the math is quite simple.
180 out of phase will give silence. using matlab you should see what waveforms you get adding two identical waves only out of phase with each other. try it for a variety of different phases. i think what you are imagining is how the ears are able to remove the significance of phase between signals to some extent, but of course not entirely. coming from different locations like speakers and into different ears at different times your brain is able to pretend phase is not as important as it is however the effects of signals being out of phase is certainly heard for example many have witnessed nodes of high and low volume depending on the placement of their subwoofers in a room and relative to each other. invert one pair of wires going into one ear of your headphones and you will quite clearly hear the difference. certainly 2 signals 180 degrees out of phase being put out by the same transducer and you will not hear a thing. this is actually the basis for noise canceling circuitry of some headphones.