160GB video DAP from Archos???
Sep 13, 2006 at 8:57 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 18

philodox

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Ok, so I was checking out a Canadian website that sells Archos products and I see the AV504 listed... with 80GB and 160GB options. I know Scott from this site and he is a cool guy, so I don't imagine it is a hoax. However I checked the Archos site and I only see the AV404 [small screen, 30GB] and the AV604 [large screen, 30GB] listed at present.

Here is hoping that Scott has the inside track... maybe I should send him an email.
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Link: http://www.hotmp3gear.com/Archos504.htm
 
Sep 14, 2006 at 12:22 AM Post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by philodox
Ok, so I was checking out a Canadian website that sells Archos products and I see the AV504 listed... with 80GB and 160GB options. I know Scott from this site and he is a cool guy, so I don't imagine it is a hoax. However I checked the Archos site and I only see the AV404 [small screen, 30GB] and the AV604 [large screen, 30GB] listed at present.

Here is hoping that Scott has the inside track... maybe I should send him an email.
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Link: http://www.hotmp3gear.com/Archos504.htm



Looks like they updated the site, because the 80 & 160 Gb are listed on the homepage.
 
Sep 14, 2006 at 7:34 AM Post #7 of 18
While I would love to have 160 GB for films at my disposal I believe that the Archos codec support for films is not a strong selling point. No DivX or Xivid?
No way.
 
Sep 14, 2006 at 7:53 AM Post #9 of 18
Some of Archos' players use a 2.5-inch, laptop-style hard drives as opposed to the 1.8-inch variety used in most DAPs/PMPs. The 2.5-inch models are cheaper per gB and have higher capacities (160gb+) but are physically larger, heavier, and require more power.
 
Sep 14, 2006 at 1:50 PM Post #10 of 18
swt61 - Yeah, it looks like they just added the 504 to their website.
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dr.morton - My old AV320 used DivX, have they removed support in the newer models? 5.5 hours of video playback is actually *quite* good considering the 4.3" widescreen display. For audio, they expect 17 hours playback time.
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Originally Posted by austonia
Some of Archos' players use a 2.5-inch, laptop-style hard drives as opposed to the 1.8-inch variety used in most DAPs/PMPs. The 2.5-inch models are cheaper per gB and have higher capacities (160gb+) but are physically larger, heavier, and require more power.


If you look at the size of this player, I don't see how they could possibly be using a 2.5 inch drive.

Just checked... it is a 1.8" drive. Still though, at 5.1" x 3.1" x 0.9" and weighing 11.11 ounces it is not exactly small. The AV604 [30GB] is 0.65" thick and weighs 9.05 ounces by comparison.

Looks like the AV504 also sacrifices the recording capability. Personally I found with my AV320 I was recording on the computer more often in any case so that is not a big deal.

So the question becomes, is 0.25" of thickness and 2.06 ounces too much to ask for 90GB's?
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Sep 14, 2006 at 2:26 PM Post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by philodox
If you look at the size of this player, I don't see how they could possibly be using a 2.5 inch drive.

Just checked... it is a 1.8" drive. Still though, at 5.1" x 3.1" x 0.9" and weighing 11.11 ounces it is not exactly small. The AV604 [30GB] is 0.65" thick and weighs 9.05 ounces by comparison.



Hmm, I doubt it. 1.8"-drives have just reached 80GB. 160GB is the current maximum of 2.5"-drives, and these things are not that big physically.

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Sep 14, 2006 at 3:26 PM Post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by Zakalwe
Hmm, I doubt it. 1.8"-drives have just reached 80GB. 160GB is the current maximum of 2.5"-drives, and these things are not that big physically.


Well, I got the 1.8" drive spec from the cnet review, so I'm not completely sure yet. However, given that the AV504 has slightly better battery life than the AV604 it is hard to believe they are using a 2.5" drive.
 
Sep 14, 2006 at 4:33 PM Post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by dr.morton
And 5,5 hours of playback time is also nothing to get crazy about.
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I do believe that is video playback.
 
Sep 14, 2006 at 5:31 PM Post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by dr.morton
5.5 hours playing time with a 4.3" screen is not bad.
But I rather stick with 8 hours and a 3.5" screen.



Are you talking about your iPod Photo? Does it even play video?
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If you compare the iPod Video to the AV504, it is pretty close with the iPod getting 6.5 hours of playtime.

[Edit: Just to restate what I said before, the AV504 apparently gets 17 hours for audio.]
 

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