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senorx12562
senorx12562
Nice review, Paul. Thanks, mate. I've kinda been wondering when the shift to hybrids was going to result in comfort issues as the number of dynamic drivers increased. Their size vs. that of ba drivers also makes it much more difficult to use what is, for me at least, still the most comfortable shape for uiems, the over-ear westone/shure-type setup, typified in this case by the Orivetis. Time for some creative design work I guess.
pedronet
pedronet
Awesome awesome review :D it's so awesome i have to say it twice :) i really like the way you describe the experience and the comparisons are well detailed. Just a question: in the tech specs table, does the DN-2000 have 2 dynamic drivers? Or is it a typo?

Thanks :)
Brooko
Brooko
Thanks all - appreciate the kind words
@senorx12562 - I agree, and it's not so much about their size as their shape. They can be larger as long as they fit the ear better. There are a number of 5 driver hybrids around with ergonomic designs so it should be possible.
@pedronet - thanks for the catch on the tech specs.  I have corrected.
Brooko
Brooko
Added photos of DN-2002 worn, and also more info on fit.
DUNU-Topsound
DUNU-Topsound
Thank you Paul for your super detailed review!
RedJohn456
RedJohn456
Fantastic review Paul, really interesting to see the comparison with DN200J. Kudos to you not giving it a free pass on ergonomics even if it did sound good :)
ScottPilgrim
ScottPilgrim
loved the beautiful in-depth review. 
Koolpep
Koolpep
Thanks! Great review as always!!
Robert777
Robert777
Never been much of an IEM guy but I love your reviews and always find them really informative. Thanks for all your hard work. Cheers.
Brooko
Brooko
Thank you all for the comments.  DUNU have already been in touch, asked me to send the review sample back, and want to replace it with a perfectly balanced pair (I didn't ask for this - so shows how highly they are committed to service) - really nice work DUNU.  They're also already considering some of my comments and looking at ways they can improve. It is one of the reasons I hold their company in high regard.  They really listen to their consumer base. I just realised I didn't include DUNU's own graph - so I'm going to see if I can get a clearer copy and post it. 
knorris908
knorris908
knorris908 Today at 6:01 amDelete
Fit/comfort being subjective not only by taste, but also by biology is in my experience unavoidable. Good point about the edge of the metal securing segment. Hopefully that can be a "silent enhancement" in the next run of DUNUs, and made available as a service to current owners as well....

These seem to be terrific all-rounders with good detail, which in my book is king. Specialized sets for particular aspects are nice, but I love the idea of a set that lays everything on the table without much thought, or need to provide a specialized audio chain to bring out its best.

Excellent review! Well-done Sir. :grinning:
Inks
Inks
Disappointing frequency response, DN2000 is still their best tuned yet imo
Brooko
Brooko
Have you actually heard them Inks?  I have both here.  Prefer DN2002 by a long shot.
Inks
Inks
Sorry to sound so negative, like your reviews.

I haven't but based on experience, the FR alone tells me it's not something I will find competent. Too much bass roll-off and lacks some treble extension.

FR isn't everything but when FR shows an IEM lacks something it just can't produce no matter of preference. I'll say the DN2000 boosted subbass is more realistic and research is showing that boost is natural.

Then again preference is preference. It's FR reminds me of the EQ8 which I found I have a great midrange but the driver wasn't competent to produce the extremities. That IEM has its fans but IMO for its asking price it's ridiculous.
Brooko
Brooko
Had a new set arrive to replace the original review set.  I'll post the new graphs shortly. I'd agree with you that a little bass emphasis sounds natural to us - but I'd suggest it is more mid-bass than sub-bass emphasis.  Sub-bass seems to be more about preference.  Full sized headphones like the HD600 are very natural sounding (IMO) because of this - and they are rolled off in the sub-bass. Agree on the lower treble as well - but just remember that the Veritas measures low from 4kHz North.  So its good for comparative data - not that great for accurate.  if you get the chance Inks - you should listen to them.  probably not your preference - but pretty good all the same.
mikek200
mikek200
Another outstanding review,Brooko-thank you.
 
Question: do you think that Dunu will be coming out with an upgraded 2002,with the new cable?
Or,is it recommended, that I pull the trigger on the current model.
Would the difference be...night & day?
Brooko
Brooko
I didn't notice any sonic difference with the cable Mike - but I readily admit to having tin or cloth ears (my tinnitus and are are against me).  There is no change to freq response though, so that is a pretty good indicator that if there were any changes (unless it massively changes phase) they will likely be inaudible.  Put it this way - you're more likely to change the sound through insertion depth variation or angle of the IEM (both would affect frequency), than the cable change.
 
You could try PMing Vivian (http://www.head-fi.org/u/176477/dunu-topsound) and asking her if the intention is to include the cable as an add-on or part of the standard package. I'll ask as well but haven't been given an indication yet - other than that they will be changing the connectors to the same size as the normal cable.
Inks
Inks
I'll disagree the roll-off in the HD600 is its weakness imo, but it's midbass is very clean luckily. For IEMs I'll guess they even need even more subbass boost than headphones to have the feel flat speakers in a room have which I find to be the case. We'll see once Harman research gets into that.

Yeah I'll say it's probably not completely accurate data though because it can be compared to the DN2000 series which is boderline low on high treble, having less than it is not a good sign...

Doubt I'll get to listen to them, kind of retired from the hobby. IEM pricing is a mess imo, too many gimmicks that are a lot of the times not backed up by performance. And new stuff is usually looked good upon then the flare stops. Price doesn't equal performance till standards are set like on speakers.

I applaud Dunu for releasing so much stuff and push it, hopefully the other upcoming ones do well. The ergonomics for sure are improving
Arsalan
Arsalan
Hi, im upgrading from the RHA ma750 and im considering the FLC8s, DUNU 2002 and DUNU 2000j. Im looking for about the more clarity and detail than RHA MA750 with strong (not too much) bass response.
Also do you think there will be a significant difference in clarity and bass response in these 2 DUNU’s compared to FLC8s?
Thanks
Arsalan
Arsalan
Thanks, do you prefer FLC8s over DUNU 2002?
 
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