well, my final choice was the shure 440s. any experience with them?

well then, 440s are my final choice! I'm horribly indecisive. I wasn't able to get the 840 pads yet, but I have a small head so comfort might not be much of a problem.

op edited, meant pros.

could you elaborate on "when it's called for"?

I don't have a large head so I think ill be fine. I ended up canceling my shure order because you know, I do care about bass more than I thought and I've pored many reviews that said the bass just wasn't there. the charts show the 280s being the closest thing to the 50s in terms of frequency, so...

Quote: thanks man, i'll definitely take it into consideration.

Quote:  Yes, I've heard the same. Though I've heard the durability issues to be more prominent on the 280s, and the clamping to be a detrimental point as well. 

Quote: yeah, i'm trying not to be too picky or hyped up for it since i can't upgrade until late summer, but as a new audio head, i want to start off small. i want something that sounds good. but since a lot of people here have been in the head fi game for a while, what they may brand as...

so tempted to get them "used like new" on amazon   had to settle for SRH440s with 840 pads because i didn't have the little extra cash for the 50s. but these will hold me over until summer where i can upgrade.

oh, and I'm switching out the pads for 880 pads, will that affect the isolation?

thanks man. I wanted the most neutral sounding while having a little slight umph to the bass. but I'm not a bass head, so I wasn't gonna look for "bass" cans specifically.

how do you guys feel about the 440s? not hearing much about them in these super guides. I wanted no leakage and i didn't want to hear the outside world as much,   i may get the 280 from senn but i've heard things like isolation is bad.    the bass frequency graph kinds makes me skeptical.

Quote: bass prominent to where it takes away from the mids and highs, or just enough to give it a thump, make it punchy? 

I'm new here. This thread has been done many times before, I know. But few ever came to a consensus. Anyways, I'm debating on these two. No, I don't have the extra 25 to bump up to the 50s as I'm paying for them myself.  I don't know how to read frequency graphs well yet, but the bass goes...