These are flat plate measurements, which can’t really be reliably used as well as a HATS measurement

I think this is precisely why this hobby can be so annoying for me. This hobby has gotten to the point where it’s almost not weird to see a headphone cost over $2,000 and I’ve yet to hear a headphone in that tier that was good enough that it really made sense for it to cost that much. Cost is...

That’s almost just as concerning; the HD600 has displaced a lot of flagship headphones for me because it sounds so correct in many ways that other headphones aren’t that if the going back to the HD600 sounds off after using the T5p2, then it must be incredibly colored.

The problem with initial reviews is that everyone wants to find a giant killer or be the first out with a review so they may overlook certain things. I bought the M1060 because people said it was basically a cheaper Audeze and it really disappointed me because it wasn’t.

Yeah, I’ve been waiting to see them drop below $1k. I don’t have many opportunities to try things so my only option has been to wait to buy things for cheap used and sell for around the same price when I realize I hate it, haha. The 007 really was an interesting headphone. I think I tried to...

Is the T5p2 different from the T5p? I bought a T5p and sold it within a day because it legitimately sounded like an AM radio. I thought it was just a bad unit but I heard another one and it sounded pretty similar.

I was considering a T8ie because I wanted subbass, but the way you describe the Z1R is basically my ideal sound signature for an IEM. Maybe I should just bite the bullet on a used one if my listening uses change. I actually bought a UERM earlier this month and when I was cleaning, I realized I...

I think that’s fair; I really, really want to hear the IER-Z1R because I’ve heard so many good things about it and I’d take the EX1000 over the limited >$1000 IEMs I’ve heard. But as far as over ear headphones go, it’s so disappointing to hear systems cost more than a new car still sound so...

The HEDDphone looks interesting. The Susvara has some of that hazy treble quality which is a big reason I prefer the HE6 on big speaker amp (I haven’t heard a headphone amp do them justice), which has less of that. But really, this struggle is why I’ve given up on finding the perfect headphone...

The impedance looks different from the M1060C so they’re probably a new driver. I like the new headband, it looks too close to Focal’s though.

Yes they do.

Ah I must have missed that, they do sound a little metallic. Other than that, the only headphone I can think of with similar impact is the Hifiman HE6, which I preferred to the Susvara, but it’s a little bright and metallic sounding itself.

The PM3 is probably the closest you’re going to get to what you want but they have a little peak in mid-treble.

I’d second the Aurvana Live.

Have you considered a Utopia? It’s not nearly as flabby as other dynamics and has a lot of tactile impact, probably in part because it’s not so warm like the Z1R or Empyrean.