Quote: In the $150 price range, I think manufacturers see more value in creating desktop quality portable amp/dac combos than pure desktop amps. It is hard to imagine a super-competitive market for desktop amps where so many of them come out that one is bound to hit that price/quality...

Quote: Oh great gods of head-fi! We beseech thee! Come help us in this time of doubt and uncertainty!  

So. If I want to output sound to devices other than headphones, what's the output setting on the E17 that will give me the cleanest sound? In other words, whats the closest thing to using an L7 without actually using a L7? I know its probably with gain at 0. What about the volume? Also, is it...

There he is. The great ClieOS! I love how you randomly pop up and answer everybody's questions all in one post! Thanks a lot man. Appreciate it.    

Quote: Any minute now....... :D

Quote: http://www.fiio.com.cn/news/index.aspx   That should give you a list of all the "legit" re-sellers of the E17.   If you're in the US, Miccastore is a good place to get it. Their first batch is sold out. Second batch arrives in mid-february. mp4nation is definitely legit...

Quote: Yes it does.    

My baby's finally done charging! That took a while lol! I've been using it this whole time though. ( ~6 hours)   And thanks, bowei006.

Quote:   Hmm. Got it. I guess anything with a volume knob has some kind of amp in it. I have a Bose Companion 3 (did not pay for it. uncle left it :D). And they don't sound too bad directly out of the computer. And I really can't tell the difference when its plugged into the E17 headphone...

Is the headphone out ok for computer speakers? Any recommended settings? Or would it be better to get a L7 and bypass the amp altogether?

Quote: I even tried licking the bottom to see if it was anything like the glue on envelopes. No luck :D  

Quote: I tried! The darn thing doesn't stay on! Solutions?

How do you even find out if its done charging?

Well done Micca! 1. Ordered on Tuesday, 24th. I think thats the same day these guys got the shipment from Hong Kong. 2. Shipping label was created before midnight the same day (Impressive). 3. Shipped out from Virginia the very next day (25th) through USPS. 4. Reached Minnesota on the morning of...

Aaaah. That sounds about right. I back down people! This thing is perfect! (........so far :D)