iFi iPurifier 2 - Reviews, Impressions and Discussion Thread
Dec 1, 2016 at 8:26 PM Post #451 of 592
The one thing I'm struggling with is --- keep the version B for $75 (and use the A adapter) or buy a version A for $100 or $109 and have a tidier, smaller setup.
 
Decisions decisions.
 
Dec 1, 2016 at 9:40 PM Post #452 of 592
   
Would you recommend getting anything like a Jitterbug or just ignoring it? Wouldn't an iPurifier2 be doing essentially the same thing as a Jitterbug?

 
I have both. Individually, I could hear slight improvements with each and feel they work well together since they're on opposite ends of the usb cable. Jitterbug (or now the iSilencer, I assume) removes some jitter coming directly out the rear of the pc and the iP2 does it's magic just before going into the dac.
 
The iP2 does a lot more though and, had I not gotten the Jitterbug 1st, think I'd have spent that $49 towards the iP2.
 
  The one thing I'm struggling with is --- keep the version B for $75 (and use the A adapter) or buy a version A for $100 or $109 and have a tidier, smaller setup.
 
Decisions decisions.

 
I'm in a similar boat with the type A version. Don't like using adapters and think I'll eventually end up with a type B as well (perhaps on sale). That way I can switch them out depending on which dac I'm using. More expensive but I've already spent more than I ever thought cleaning up noisy usb.
 
Not sure when/if they'll ever be released but iFi still shows the micro usb and type C versions on their site. I already have a couple dac devices with micro connectors and know usb C is growing. However, of the 2 currently available, it is easier to adapt the type A iP2 to other usb connectors.
 
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 3:17 AM Post #453 of 592
My overall summary would be buy iPurifier2 and forget the rest unless you are bothered how long the system takes to sound its best after switch on. The iSilencer is a relatively affordable extra that will get you there faster. Gemini on the other hand is very expensive and harder to justify.


Would you recommend getting anything like a Jitterbug or just ignoring it? Wouldn't an iPurifier2 be doing essentially the same thing as a Jitterbug?


I never tried Jitterbug. I'm only trying iDefender and iSilencer because iFi Audio were kind enough to send me a demo set.

My experience of iSilencer suggests to me that Jitterbug might make a difference when iPurifier2 is cold but once iPurifier2 is warmed and settled, the Jitterbug would make no difference.

It's not really a surprise that iPurifier2 takes a while to warm and stabilise given the precision of the clocks that are inside it.
Super-expensive high end clocks are built into temperature controlled ovens for this very reason.
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 4:31 PM Post #454 of 592
It's not really a surprise that iPurifier2 takes a while to warm and stabilise given the precision of the clocks that are inside it.
 

Correct, these indeed need a while to kick-in properly.
 
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Dec 3, 2016 at 2:49 PM Post #455 of 592
I have a new issue: I tried the iFi iPurifier2 on my desktop for the first time recently. The computer will not recognize my DAC with the iFi plugged in. It only recognizes the DAC itself (without the iFi attached). So to reiterate:
 
PC > USB cable > iFi iPurifier2 > adapter > DAC = does not recognize DAC
 
PC > USB cable and/or DAC = recognizes DAC
 
What's the deal? This works fine on my laptops. I tried multiple USB ports and none of them worked with the iFi.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 4:58 PM Post #456 of 592
  I have a new issue: I tried the iFi iPurifier2 on my desktop for the first time recently. The computer will not recognize my DAC with the iFi plugged in. It only recognizes the DAC itself (without the iFi attached). So to reiterate:
 
PC > USB cable > iFi iPurifier2 > adapter > DAC = does not recognize DAC
 
PC > USB cable and/or DAC = recognizes DAC
 
What's the deal? This works fine on my laptops. I tried multiple USB ports and none of them worked with the iFi.

 
Try and see if you can charge a USB device with iPurifier 2 just to confirm that the iPurifier is passing current to the device. If not, you got a lemon IMO.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 5:05 PM Post #457 of 592
   
Try and see if you can charge a USB device with iPurifier 2 just to confirm that the iPurifier is passing current to the device. If not, you got a lemon IMO.

 
Well I know it's passing current because the DAC lights up when it's plugged in with the iFi. It's also on my laptop and working fine with the iFi. It's just not working on my desktop for some reason (being recognized by the computer).
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 6:31 PM Post #458 of 592
I am having a weird issue with my iP2 unit. Sometimes it gets quite warm to the touch (usually when ambient temp in my room is quite big and/or iP2 sits next to the fan vent of my laptop). Then blue power LED starts dimming and audio gets very distorted. In rare occasions it can even cut off signal altogether, completely interrupting my listening sessions. After unplugging it, putting aside, and plugging my USB cable directly to the iDAC2 I can listen again.
 
P.S. Without iP2 audio gets noticeable louder, harsher and not-so-defined. So unit definitely works in smoothing edges.
 
Dec 4, 2016 at 1:36 PM Post #461 of 592
  No, it's surprising to me, because iP2 just failed after half an hour of work in normal environment. That's really irritating, iFi.

As per usual, to use our support platform is the best and fastest way to handle such cases on our end: http://support.ifi-audio.com/
 
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Dec 31, 2016 at 11:52 AM Post #463 of 592
Got my iFi iPurifier2 USB A version and I'm very happy with it so far. I haven't tried it with the desktop yet to see if the previous issue persists but it sounds good through my laptops.
 
Jan 3, 2017 at 4:23 AM Post #464 of 592
We have something special for you today. Lots of things have been said about jitter, and here's our take on the case.
 
 
SPDIF iPurifer®: Jitter Performance Test Results - Part 1/2
 
 

 
 
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To show what the SPDIF iPurifier® can do and how it can improve DACs from the inexpensive through to the very expensive, we used the ‘Jitter Generation’ function of the Audio Precision 2 test system to create a ‘J-Test Signal’ (the industry standard for testing and widely used by magazines, including Stereophile, USA).
 

 
 
The Audio Precision 2 artificially creates a specific, known amount of jitter and then measures how much it is reduced by the SPDIF iPurifier®. Hence it is quite quantifiable AND informative as a measurement tool.
 
 

 


The Methodology
 
Audio Precision 2 (AP2) generates a signal with 64,130pS of jitter (measured via loopback into AP2) using a square wave waveform at 250Hz. The specific settings are simply chosen to create a gross amount of easily visible jitter. The test results are scaled to be comparable with those by Stereophile (USA).
 
DACs Tested
 
The majority of DACs (>80%) in the market use either AKM or Cirrus Logic SPDIF receiver chips, hence one DAC using each of these was selected.

The DACs tested are listed below:
 
  1. DAC 1:  AKM based, AK4113 Receiver & AK4490 DAC Chip, RRP US$400               
 
        
 
 
  1. DAC 2:  CS based, CS8416 Receiver & CS4398 DAC Chip, RRP US$500
 
        
 
            
  1. DAC 3:  BB/TC based, TC Audio DICE Chip as Receiver & PCM1792 DAC Chip, RRP US$5,000
 
        
 
 
 
The last DAC was included because of two reasons; very high asking price, which indicates its high-end shelf affiliation, and its SPDIF inputs’ specific ‘anti-jitter’ circuitry. It was interesting to see how well it’d work next to DACs with ‘vanilla’ input circuitry.
 
Stay tuned, there's more!
 
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Jan 4, 2017 at 10:31 PM Post #465 of 592
Dear iFi,

"Stay tuned there's more"?

Demerits for leaving us all dangling in the suspense.  You're going to buy us all a beer while we wait---right?  LOL.... ; )
 

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