Is this whole thread based on a false analogy?   The OP said:   "I've heard this argument for years, used it myself, but I've come to really dislike the semantics of it.   If I listen to two cables and I claim that they don't sound the same, I am asked to prove it.   If I listen to two...

Actually, it doesn't say that.  That would read: "The ECT converts ultra-high RFI/EMI frequencies..."  Instead it says: "ultra-high frequencies that ARE FOUND with RFI-EMI circuit board component emissions."  Note that it doesn't say it is working on RFI/EMI.  Instead it says it is working on...

Here is a quite favorable review of another Synergistic Research "transducer."    http://www.audiostream.com/content/synergistic-research-ect-electronic-circuit-transducer   What type of energy or signal is being changed into a different type of energy or signal is not clear from reading the...

Thanks for the links, esldude!

1.  "Noise and stuttering & other random bad side effects" are a far cry from what  KlarkKentThe3rd is claiming to hear.  KlarkKentThe3rd is claiming that .wav files are "warmer" and that lossless files are "colder," whatever that might mean.  KlarkKentThe3rd, could you try to be a bit more...

Got a cite for those tests?  I'd love to be able to pull that out to rebut some of the more outrageous claims I've seen.    "Noise in the audible ranges..."  LOL!!!  Don't you know that human hearing exceeds the capability of any measuring equipment known to Man?  ;-)

Strangelove424, have you ever heard of the Audio Diffmaker?  It too is free and is designed to do "audio differencing."  You might find it fun to fiddle with!    http://libinst.com/Audio%20DiffMaker.htm   Check out the prerecorded ".dyf" files on the site!  It's amazing how many "golden...

I've seen the claim that different lossless formats sound different from one another and from .WAV files debated on other forums.  The "explanation" given there is that the extra CPU activity required by decoding the lossless format is what makes the difference in sound.    Don't shoot the...

The problem with Hi-Res formats is that they will all be salted with unreasonable DRM restrictions.   I think an extension of RedBook to 20/48kHz would likely be enough to make everyone happy, but it will never happen because of what the copyright holders learned with standard Redbook...

People keep moaning that digital audio doesn't represent "reality," while forgetting that neither does analog audio represent "reality."    An analog microphone only captures, at best, a one dimensional representation of reality using a variable voltage.     If anyone wants to see for...

My confusion is over just what the heck "HD" files are supposed to bring to the table if not extended high frequencies?  I agree, those high frequencies are likely not audible, but how else can one distinguish an HD file from a RedBook file?   Edit: Thanks for posting the picture...

As long as you have the HD version of Bad loaded in Audacity, how about checking out the spectrum to see if there really is any "HD" content in it?  Click somewhere in the wave form area of the track and drag to select 30 seconds or so of music.  Then go to the "Analyze" tab and choose "Plot...

Any chance you could use Audacity to capture the differing wave forms between the two recording and post them in this thread so we could see the difference between the two?    For example, here's a comparison between a recent reissue of Loggins & Messina's "Be Free," my current "go to" track...

Actually, you can check yourself by looking in Audacity.  Snark aside, can you suggest a better way for the market to respond to garbage being sold as "Hi-Rez" other than individuals posting their own experiences?    Edit: Oh, and by the way, you can pry my weapons away from my dead hands.  I...

I've seen other reports that also conclude that the HI-Rez version of "Bad" is atrocious.    "Hi-Rez" is a new and completely unregulated area of music.  Frankly, my expectation is that hucksterism and shady dealing will be the rule in this area until either the major OEMs become self policing...

No, that song is "Hi-Rez!"

"Technically, anything that is not info is noise. "   Sort of like a weed is any plant growing where you don't want it to grow?      Edit: Curses,  foiled by the page break!

You want to see some noise?     I can't imagine that  peak out at 43kHz is a harmonic.    And to add to the irony, here is what the same song looks like in Audacity:   Not much compression, is there?  Someone took some care when recording and mastering this.

Aren't those extra high frequencies the entire point of Hi-Rez files?  I'll agree we probably can't hear them, but the high frequencies are certainly there in a proper Hi-Rez file.  I too wonder what all that excess high frequency energy could do to marginal amps or tweeters.   Not to mention...

I'm just curious how much high frequency information can be found in a 20 year old recording, and especially in a 40 year old recording.  Even assuming recording at 24/96 is valuable, remastering to that level cannot create signal that isn't there in the original.

You certainly paid for and received the 24/96kHz box.  Whether you got any Hi-Rez files in that box is a different issue.   Audacity is free:  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/  There are versions for Windows, MacOS and Linux.  It's a lot smaller download than your albums were, too!   I'm no...

What would happen if we were to take the idea of AAC compression and rather than using it for Redbook instead applied it to Hi-Rez files?  If we were to shrink 24/96kHz down to Redbook in size, could it sound better than Redbook?  Or at least maintain those qualities so sought after by...

Why would Hi-Rez affect bass tones?  I thought Hi-Rez just added harmonics?  By the way, did you open your Hi-Rez files in Audacity to see if they really had Hi-Rez info in them or if they were just repackaged RedBook files? 

Well, this little snowflake appreciates all the contributions you've made to this forum.   By the way, like Superman with kryptonite, Pixie Dust stops being magical in the presence of a DBT.

I wonder if we'll eventually start seeing the "Sausage" award for the song that most completely fills all the available bandwidth.   Edit: Perhaps we could give extra points for tapering the ends [Edit some more: "or constricting random places along the body"] so it looks more like a turd?