I got the MT's for $105 at macmall. Try there but I don't know if they still stock them (macmall.com).. About the one dot - Exactly how I think. It feels good to know that there are still more gears left in the VB even with the bass just the way I like it ).. I have been in gym with my VB's...

The VB's are fine for isolation. I don't have any problems with them. That said, I haven't waited at a subway station with the VB's but I have with the MT's and they are fine. The VB's have a similar fit (for me) and so I don't think it will be a problem. I also upgraded the tips to the comply...

I have both. Been listening to the MT's since July last year. Got the VB's a few days back. Also had the Atrio M5's and the JVC victor 500 at some point. So in effect, I look for the bass heavy phones as well. Music I listen to is varied - all kinds. I like a warmer sound signature in general...

Hi All, Can you please compare these two phones? I like bass but clarity as well and to give you an idea I went from Atrio M5 to Victor FX 500 and then MOnster Turbines. Do these really beat the Turbines in bass and clarity? It seems so after reading the reviews. Thanks in advance

I've been in this situation and i have advice that will prove invaluable to you - you'll thank me later if you want good earphones.. go big initially.. dont scrimp now.. once u like the earphones.. ull buy the better ones later anyway.. .. i did exactly the same thing.. i recommend jvc...

I would recommend the jvc victor fx500... they arent iem's.. they;re canal phones.. very comfortable.. i've used ipod buds, shure, UE super fi's, bose in ears and atrio m5's befoer these and i can only say - they are the best.. if you want great bass close to the atrios and excellent mid's...

try the jvc victor fx500.. it is pretty darn good. i am an ex-user of atrio m5's.. been a year with them.. i was blown away but the mid's and high's of the victor ... you might sacrifice 10% on the bass but you gain 50% on the mid's and high's.. i cant recommend them enough. and they are sooooo...

I've used the shure olive tips and they are pretty good. However i think the best fit was the original atrio foamies.

do i have to log off and log on

I still don't have access.. why??? I meet the requirements!

no problem.. i cant recommend them enough!!!!

shigzeo. no need to answer.. i got my answer .. its the victor.. love them.. atrios are really too dark.. maybe i use the foamies which makes them even more dark.. but boy i love the foamies on the victor.. i cant stop grinning while listening to them.. i went through all genres.. rock...

Well the atrios are gonna go.. no doubt about it. . the victor blew them away! im surprised.. both at my music preference and the performance of the victor!! they are the best!

Defineitely the victor fx500 from JVC should be in your list. excellent bass and quality and very short wire.. i need it because i have a SE phone and it has a connector so i need a short wire on my phones so i dont carry 2 m of wire in my pocket

hahah.. well i guess it did.. anyway now that i have 50.. im not so interested in posting.. still trying to decide which one to choose and keep.. the atrio or the victor.. comments are welcome..: