To clarify a few things regarding pricing:-
The original 1plus2 were offered at an introductory price of $980 with silver cable and $1080 with silver/gold cable for few months.
However, after the initial launch exactly a year ago, they were redesigned completely, especially internally, in November 2012. To the point that there is no semblance to the original 1plus2, in appearance and sonics. The price change reflects the redesign and are priced at $1250 and $1450. However, the original were to be priced at $1180 and $1280 after the introductory offer ceased.
Every owner of the original 1plus2 were offered the opportunity for a replacement to the redesigned 1plus2 free of charge, in which every customer took up. nk77 being the last customer to do so.
We are the only company that makes and tune our cables specifically for our earpieces, from foundry to retail product.
Hopefully this clarifies our pricing policy for the 1plus2.
Gavin
That's not how I remember things and apologies if I'm getting things a bit wrong here.
I remember quite well lee730, 1plus2's #1 fan, said that the 1p2
v1 was practically half the price of the K3003 (the latter retailing for $1,300) — lee730 kept telling people in those days (and for months on end) in
many threads how much better than the K3003 the 1p2
v1 was—and at almost half the price!
When the 1p2 v2 was announced by lee730—who has always seemed to be Tralucent's spokesperson from even
before day one (on 30th July 2012 and on the K3003 thread,
of course, quite sometime before spkrs01 had become a "Member of the Trade" for Tralucent)—and the huge price difference, people were a little more than surprised. As far as I can remember, the difference wasn't ~$200/~$300, but a hell of a lot more (closer to double the price). I still remember AnakChan, who was not a moderator at the time of the price increase, expressing his (polite) strong feelings about such huge price hike.
It took me all of 5 minutes to find the original post:
Ok guys just wanted to add this below regarding the price ranges.
"The introductory price is $880 with SPC cable, $980 6N OCC silver cable and $1080 with a 6N OCC silver/gold cable. Face-plates of Carbon Fibre, Wood and Aluminium are included in the price
If you have cables already then just the Earpiece is $780.
The amp is $249...we may do an introduction at $229...need to confirm.
For the IEM probably add $150 to the price when they are at full retail...but need to confirm also."
Not half, but the earpieces alone had a price almost there.
When the 1p2 v2 was announced by
lee730—who has always seemed to be Tralucent's spokesperson from even before day one ...
Music_4321, i would also recommend you include an APOLOGY to Lee who always been trusted and unbiased HeadFier... it was very unpleasant to read what you wrote. i always enjoyed your posts but not the last ones here.
I agree.
music_4312: You have, since the day he first mentioned them, been calling Lee a shill, which, reasonably enough, I looked into. That you are doing so, publicly, months later (he is still here), is reprehensible. In fact, it seems like when the discussion of ANY IEM in the same price range as the K3003 comes up, I start to get complaints about your posts. So I think you owe a great many people a public apology.
First off, you're a mod AND an administrator. In fact, you're
the main mod on Head-fi.
Secondly, you joined HF in Jan 2008, I joined in Dec 2008, but unlike you, I have mostly resided on the IEMs forum as you well know. You, on the other hand, have mostly resided on the full-sized forum or other high-end gear forums or the so-called "Summit-fi" forum.
My point: although you may be generally right about a number of things you've seen, you've
not seen enough. Does that mean music_4321 is necessarily right? Not necessarily, but he has certainly seen a hell of a lot more posts by many more people on this forum than you have.
Have people complained in the past about music_4321? You bet! Our charming sparrow has made quite a few people pretty uncomfortable. Why? Often because he is a no non-sense type of person and has taken quite a few people to task — after so much BS that is often posted in these forum threads. By now you should also know that music_4321 has some credibility that other more likeable, friendly and very helpful members do not have. Yes, I do know this is not enough to not be a pest sometimes, uncomfortable, wrong, etc.
Anyway, I think your post was a bit wrong, a bit off the mark or simply put: 'you have not seen enough' / 'you don't know enough'. I don't want to mention other credible members, who are not a pest like music_4321 can be, but who could easily confirm some of the comments I've made — members you yourself think quite highly of, but members who also know it's not worth getting involved in this 'mess', members who also happen to appreciate music_4321, some who appreciate him a great deal, even.
You still seem to think that the K3003 is 'my baby' ("No-one can touch my baby!", says our old sparrow). If you knew music_4321 a little better, you'd know he loves his K3003s, yes, but the AKGs are not really items he feels he must defend, but music_4321 reports on some rather odd things he's seen around. And I'm sorry if I have to say this again: you don't know the whole story behind the K3003s. It'd be tedious, dead boring and a whole waste of time (for both of us) to tell you everything that's gone on there. Thankfully I'm not the 'only witness', but I'm certainly the only one who speaks up, and not only about the K3003s but about many other things I've seen in the IEMs forum.
There have been people who have genuinely disliked the K3003s and I've never, ever, had any issues with them — I really wish you were able to see that; you still seem to think that is not the case — long ago I gave up trying to tell you a little more about the 'fascinating' K3003 saga.
Anyway, I hope you do not remove this post and don't take any drastic measures against our most popular sparrow.
But, since you said I should apologise publicly to lee730 and many other people, I'll start my round of apologies this time with 3 Head-fiers (later I'll apologise to some others):
Here is my public apology to lee730, Totally Dubbed & miow.
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I'd like to ask people reading this post to not comment or respond to this post and, consequently, derail this thread. PLEASE. Seriously. I will either get a response from Currawong here and/or privately.
