econparanoia
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The 1% gold thing doesn't really make any sense to me. An excuse for using inpure material and even try to market it for more revenue maybe.
may i ask something..did u actually tried a silver cable with infused gold in it compared to a pure silver cable? As i read on the threads that there is actually a soundcharacter difference between the two. Its a pity i didnt have the luck to try a silver widow/silver poison myself..YET.as myself. I prefer copper over silver cables for my he500's( i do own a quality silver cable).but reading many experiences i cant but agree there is a difference in sound allthough maybe subtile compared to a full silver one. And for r info..toxic cables uses the highest quality materials in their products and the workmanship is second to none! So pls explain how u came to ur conclusion?The 1% gold thing doesn't really make any sense to me. An excuse for using inpure material and even try to market it for more revenue maybe.
Silver and copper are both superior as conductor than gold is. It will not be surprising if adding 1% gold will change the sound, but hardly in a good way. I once asked Chris of the Headphone Lounge whether their silver plated copper (SPC) silver ray cable was the best cable they offered, and got the following reply:
[size=12.727272033691406px]"The best wire we have isn't even listed, I have full stranded silver but we're talking about double the price for that since the wire is a little more expensive, .... We have this silver with 1% gold in it that sounds like crap so I don't offer it to people even though I'm sitting on a good amount of it."[/size]
Admittedly, I never actually tried a silver cable with infused gold in it. I just feel Chris' claim makes more sense than the claim that infusing gold in silver will make better sounding cable, based on the fact that silver and copper are both superior conductors than gold. Also, how could one advertise their cables as being made of 99.99..% silver when there is 1% gold in it
I might suggest you have a look at my appreciation thread and read what hundreds of people have to say about my silver/gold cable.
Not one single person has yet said my cable is not an improvement over stock, i think that's saying something.
So who should one listen to, you or your source, or the hundreds of people who actually own the cable.
As to what/who one should listen to, we are all here for discussions and opinions, and people should and as a matter of fact always listen to their own interpretation of these available information.
I have little doubt that your silver/gold cable is an improvement over stock. But I doubt if the improvement actually comes from the gold infusion. And I think the more interesting comparisons should be between your silver/gold silver poison cable and your silver plated copper cable or some pure copper, or pure silver cables.
As to what/who one should listen to, we are all here for discussions and opinions, and people should and as a matter of fact always listen to their own interpretation of these available information.
Key being "Listen"....Since you have not, your opinion is not valid.....
Silver and copper are both superior as conductor than gold is. It will not be surprising if adding 1% gold will change the sound, but hardly in a good way. I once asked Chris of the Headphone Lounge whether their silver plated copper (SPC) silver ray cable was the best cable they offered, and got the following reply:
[size=12.727272033691406px]"The best wire we have isn't even listed, I have full stranded silver but we're talking about double the price for that since the wire is a little more expensive, .... We have this silver with 1% gold in it that sounds like crap so I don't offer it to people even though I'm sitting on a good amount of it."[/size]
Admittedly, I never actually tried a silver cable with infused gold in it. I just feel Chris' claim makes more sense than the claim that infusing gold in silver will make better sounding cable, based on the fact that
silver and copper are both superior conductors than gold. Also, how could one advertise their cables as being made of 99.99..% silver when there is 1% gold in it :blink:
I have little doubt that your silver/gold cable is an improvement over stock. But I doubt if the improvement actually comes from the gold infusion. And I think the more interesting comparisons should be between your silver/gold silver poison cable and your silver plated copper cable or some pure copper, or pure silver cables.
As to what/who one should listen to, we are all here for discussions and opinions, and people should and as a matter of fact always listen to their own interpretation of these available information.
Regardless of that, you are requested to respect the topic of discussion when you post. Here's what I suggest: Since you insist in some of your posts that all cables are a rip-off, as the parts are cheap, you go and buy the wire yourself (you can do so from Toxic cables or buy wire from many other places) and make the cable yourself. The cost of manufacturing an audio product is not in the materials, but in the manufacturing itself. This is the same for most products. I think you may appreciate the efforts of the companies here more so once you've spent a few hours braiding cable and soldering tiny plugs. I especially recommend trying this with multi-strand litz wire (after you've spent all you need on the necessary equipment to do it all).
Until then, you're going to get a hard time discussing something you have no experience of.
Regardless of that, you are requested to respect the topic of discussion when you post. Here's what I suggest: Since you insist in some of your posts that all cables are a rip-off, as the parts are cheap, you go and buy the wire yourself (you can do so from Toxic cables or buy wire from many other places) and make the cable yourself. The cost of manufacturing an audio product is not in the materials, but in the manufacturing itself. This is the same for most products. I think you may appreciate the efforts of the companies here more so once you've spent a few hours braiding cable and soldering tiny plugs. I especially recommend trying this with multi-strand litz wire (after you've spent all you need on the necessary equipment to do it all).
Until then, you're going to get a hard time discussing something you have no experience of.
Regardless of that, you are requested to respect the topic of discussion when you post. Here's what I suggest: Since you insist in some of your posts that all cables are a rip-off, as the parts are cheap, you go and buy the wire yourself (you can do so from Toxic cables or buy wire from many other places) and make the cable yourself. The cost of manufacturing an audio product is not in the materials, but in the manufacturing itself. This is the same for most products. I think you may appreciate the efforts of the companies here more so once you've spent a few hours braiding cable and soldering tiny plugs. I especially recommend trying this with multi-strand litz wire (after you've spent all you need on the necessary equipment to do it all).
Until then, you're going to get a hard time discussing something you have no experience of.
I listed the prices at the beginning of the review. The Silver Poison cables have built a reputation as a terrific bargain for custom silver cables. That value still holds. The new Silver Widows are in my opinion worth twice the price. The added clarity, bass impact and space are the best I have heard. Frank has chosen to price them at 50% more than the Silver Poison's...A killer deal.
Gorgeous looking, Gorgeous sounding, twice the performance of their amazing older siblings and only 50% more in their price.