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Dec 26, 2012 at 4:34 PM Post #5,731 of 100,031
Treble spikes between 3 and 5 kHz make the treble harsh/piercing and cheap sounding.  Spikes above 9 kHz do not hurt the treble quality nearly as much (if they do), because that is where the sweet treble is.  How are the FXZ100 and FXZ200 on that matter?
 
Dec 26, 2012 at 4:49 PM Post #5,732 of 100,031
Finally got my ELEs. Nice sound. Good sound stage. A little less bass than my stock dac on the this HP. That's a little disappointing. Oh well. Really good sound and at least I don't have to hear the clicking and buzzing in the background of onboard electronics.
 
Dec 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM Post #5,733 of 100,031
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Treble spikes between 3 and 5 kHz make the treble harsh/piercing and cheap sounding.  Spikes above 9 kHz do not hurt the treble quality nearly as much (if they do), because that is where the sweet treble is.  How are the FXZ100 and FXZ200 on that matter?


No treble spikes in that region that I can hear. This was happening on the FX101 and the FX3X. The FXZs however is a very nice refined sound. No harshness spiky stuff at all.
 
Dec 26, 2012 at 6:58 PM Post #5,734 of 100,031
Treble spikes between 3 and 5 kHz make the treble harsh/piercing and cheap sounding.  Spikes above 9 kHz do not hurt the treble quality nearly as much (if they do), because that is where the sweet treble is.  How are the FXZ100 and FXZ200 on that matter?



No treble spikes in that region that I can hear. This was happening on the FX101 and the FX3X. The FXZs however is a very nice refined sound. No harshness spiky stuff at all.


Thank you!

The ATH-CKS77 have treble spike(s) in that frequency range. If those JVCs don't have any, then the treble should be a lot smoother (no harshness) on them as compared to the CKS77's treble. Is it smoother?
 
Dec 26, 2012 at 7:12 PM Post #5,736 of 100,031
It is smoother.  I have trouble with the AT's treble and don't find them harsh on the JVC's.


Thank you.

I asked a good general interest question about those JVCs in the wrong thread (here) by accident. I meant to ask it again today on the right thread. I had already asked the question a few days ago (page 60), but no one answered it.
 
Dec 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM Post #5,738 of 100,031
Just received these today.  The new micro-driver AT CKN50's.  I've only let them burn for the last 5 hours so these are quick initial impressions.  
 
Bass:  Tight and controlled and reaches down to sub-bass levels.  I'd say somewhere between the JVC FXD70 and 80.  
 
Treble:  Has the AT house treble but I only hear sibilance on a rare occasion.  Certain other AT's, after burn-in, I still couldn't stand the harsh treble.  We'll see what happens after burn.  
 
Midrange:  Slightly recessed, still gives decent vocal presence but I actually would prefer more.  
 
The earphones fit nicely, not sure what the rubber hooks do but the housing is small and insertion can go deep.  It has a J-cord design.  Will throw up more impressions after a few days of burn.  
 
 

 

 
Dec 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM Post #5,739 of 100,031
A noobie question about using the ELE DAC without an amp, and controlling the volume on the PC:
 
Is it better to control the volume in the music player and keep the system master volume at max?  Or control the volume using the system master and keep the music player volume at max?  Or maybe it makes no difference??
 
Dec 27, 2012 at 1:11 AM Post #5,740 of 100,031
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It's a bit louder than the headphone jack, about 2 or 3 clicks. Its got plenty of juice to drive the mh1 and lower cans & iem.

That's good to know. I'll be using my S3 as my office rig. Our IT had all the PC's locked and wont accept my ELE when I plug it in. 
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Dec 27, 2012 at 1:38 AM Post #5,741 of 100,031
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Dsnuts has tried the ELE with FiiO E11 and he said they work well together :wink:

 
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*24 hours later* Every ELE DAC and E11 currently sold out online*
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Hahahaha! I will take a look. I'm actually looking to get DT880's (250 or 600 Ohm) later. So my choice of amp will depend on that too.
 
Dec 27, 2012 at 2:03 AM Post #5,742 of 100,031
These came with my HP Laptop. Literally free earbuds...
 
What a pleasant surprise. 
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  If you have one of these, check them out. Can be had for as low as $5 on the 'bay.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
(disclaimer: Pic above is not mine)
 
Dec 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM Post #5,745 of 100,031
I think I might get the ELE DAC to try it out, but the specs confuse me. It says the dynamic range is 100 dB... how is that possible when the bit depth is 16 bits? Has anyone done any real measurements?
 

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