Subtonic STORM: Impressions and Discussion
Dec 8, 2022 at 1:47 PM Post #17 of 988
Hey Subtonic,

Congratulations on accomplishing your goals with the Supply Chain hurdle hanging over everyone's head. I don't know how you made this possible.

Anyways, I like your attention to detail that I noticed via your website so I was curious about the type of internal wiring and soldering that was used in this product? Any special internal wiring? Silver? Any special Brand? Brand of solder? Mundorf? Regular or Supreme if Mundorf? I understand if you cannot share so ignore this post if that's the case.

Recessed 0.78mm 2-pin connectors made from a beryllium copper alloy (low resistance, highly durable)

Okay, good. low resistance, good. I don't mind mixing beryllium cooper with silver. I run WBT Cooper (RCA OUT) with Silver wiring on my C/IEM cable. https://kimber.com/connectors/wbt-0152cu. The synergy balances out as Silver-on-Silver is too much in most cases. So Cooper + Silver pairs well when implemented properly.

wbt0152cu.png

There's nothing like listening via WBTs -> C/IEMs.

But do you happen to offer IPX/T2? I know the Supply Chain in 2023 for IPX/T2 female socket is probably non-existent, but I delayed all my audio projects until 2024 so it's not a current issue. So crossing fingers maybe one day...

My priorities are:
  1. Comfort
  2. IPX/T2
  3. The rest of the attributes plays out well when your chain is solid.
But I won't be in the market for another good year plus. Just curious at this point as this is the only C/IEM that draws my interest ATM. My preference is Reference as my perfectly neutral optical chain plays as honesty as possible to the well-mastered source. And I mainly only play well-mastered Redbook [Black Triangle, Target (Orginal Mastering) https://targetcd.com/, MFSL, DCC, Japan 1st Press, etc.]. I'm not interested in Thump-thump C/IEMs as I don't listen to kPop.

I run a super tight chain with <1Ω throughout. Off-grid Super Capacitor Power with solid core wiring (<1Ω) -> State of the Art Clocks / Oscillators similar to what dCS has to offer (single MHz range not generic 44.1KHz) -> real-time low latency operating system (<1Ω) -> FPGA DAC (not generic DAC) -> GOAT perfectly neutral tone C/IEM cable (not generic OEM cables).

So I hope I can learn more about this product is 2023, but I'm taking a break until 2024. I was hoping to cluster my source to supercomputer status is 2023, but Supply Chain issue. So I'm quite particular and not willing to cut corners. This product I'm hoping fits the bill.

IMO my chain >= dCS Lina. I run no Mains, no tradtional amp, no generic software plus it's focused exclusively for C/IEMs so the Storm seems like a good fit. But one day. Audio hiatus needed in 2023 to stay balanced.

Anyways, I appeciate all the hard work you guys put in the last few years. Hope what you learn we can benefit with more future products. Hoping to visit Singapore in the next few years (I've been watching MRT fights on Youtube, so preparing a visit).

[Example of my chain, the OS, like to keep things super tight yo]
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Dec 8, 2022 at 1:59 PM Post #18 of 988
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Dec 8, 2022 at 2:36 PM Post #21 of 988
Hey Subtonic,

Congratulations on accomplishing your goals with the Supply Chain hurdle hanging over everyone's head. I don't know how you made this possible.

Anyways, I like your attention to detail that I noticed via your website so I was curious about the type of internal wiring and soldering that was used in this product? Any special internal wiring? Silver? Any special Brand? Brand of solder? Mundorf? Regular or Supreme if Mundorf? I understand if you cannot share so ignore this post if that's the case.



Okay, good. low resistance, good. I don't mind mixing beryllium cooper with silver. I run WBT Cooper (RCA OUT) with Silver wiring on my C/IEM cable. https://kimber.com/connectors/wbt-0152cu. The synergy balances out as Silver-on-Silver is too much in most cases. So Cooper + Silver pairs well when implemented properly.

wbt0152cu.png

There's nothing like listening via WBTs -> C/IEMs.

But do you happen to offer IPX/T2? I know the Supply Chain in 2023 for IPX/T2 female socket is probably non-existent, but I delayed all my audio projects until 2024 so it's not a current issue. So crossing fingers maybe one day...

My priorities are:
  1. Comfort
  2. IPX/T2
  3. The rest of the attributes plays out well when your chain is solid.
But I won't be in the market for another good year plus. Just curious at this point as this is the only C/IEM that draws my interest ATM. My preference is Reference as my perfectly neutral optical chain plays as honesty as possible to the well-mastered source. And I mainly only play well-mastered Redbook [Black Triangle, Target (Orginal Mastering) https://targetcd.com/, MFSL, DCC, Japan 1st Press, etc.]. I'm not interested in Thump-thump C/IEMs as I don't listen to kPop.

I run a super tight chain with <1Ω throughout. Off-grid Super Capacitor Power with solid core wiring (<1Ω) -> State of the Art Clocks / Oscillators similar to what dCS has to offer (single MHz range not generic 44.1KHz) -> real-time low latency operating system (<1Ω) -> FPGA DAC (not generic DAC) -> GOAT perfectly neutral tone C/IEM cable (not generic OEM cables).

So I hope I can learn more about this product is 2023, but I'm taking a break until 2024. I was hoping to cluster my source to supercomputer status is 2023, but Supply Chain issue. So I'm quite particular and not willing to cut corners. This product I'm hoping fits the bill.

IMO my chain >= dCS Lina. I run no Mains, no tradtional amp, no generic software plus it's focused exclusively for C/IEMs so the Storm seems like a good fit. But one day. Audio hiatus needed in 2023 to stay balanced.

Anyways, I appeciate all the hard work you guys put in the last few years. Hope what you learn we can benefit with more future products. Hoping to visit Singapore in the next few years (I've been watching MRT fights on Youtube, so preparing a visit).

[Example of my chain, the OS, like to keep things super tight yo]
Thank you for your interest. Due to the complexity of the STORM crossover, flexible internal wiring is required. We use the thickest gauge Estron silver plated copper wiring for the mids and highs as it provides a good balance of flexibility and conductivity, and a much larger gauge of 7N OCC pure copper for the bass signal path to allow for maximum current to be fed to the bass driver to minimise distortion. Mundorf Supreme solder is used throughout. As for connectors the STORM shell is designed for a recessed 2pin socket so IPX/T2 will not be available.
 
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Dec 8, 2022 at 9:06 PM Post #26 of 988
Another entry at the uber high end. Consider a me interested and I wait to see the trickle down on the Storm on your mid tier entries.

For me anything over 4,000 AUD, local support is a must. Will you be having local Australian dealers for your IEM?
Hello, as of this moment we do not have Australian dealers. The Launch Edition of the STORM will be carried by Zeppelin and Co (Singapore), Elise Audio (UK), and Jaben Indonesia.

When we increase our scale of operations, we will work with more retailers abroad.

Thank you! :)
 
Subtonic Audio Cutting-edge artisanal in-ear monitors for discerning listeners. Proudly designed and manufactured in Singapore. Stay updated on Subtonic Audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/Subtonic.Audio https://www.instagram.com/subtonicaudio https://subtonic.audio support@subtonic.audio

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