Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers
Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM Post #4,111 of 23,494
That would be nice  
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  - you wouldn't have a spare pair laying around you wouldn't mine lending to me?
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After owning many Siemens (including many early 60's Gray Shield CCa's and '70s silver shields)- I have to say I'm not a fan of the Siemens 'house sound' (the early '60s being an exception, but $500+ a pr is ridiculous).  I'm a tone guy all the way.  I like a natural rich tone to my sound (partly why I'm into tubes so much).  But I also like detail, transparency and clarity - hard to find together with rich tone.  I have (the HGs)  - but would like to flesh-out all the possibilities in the 'rich tone' class - so I'm curious about the CV2492/2493/5358 .  I have sold my Amperex PWs (just to over the top euphonic) and unfortunately the 6922 CEP-USNs that I bought failed testing on arrival.  I would like to add those as well.

 


I don't have a pair of the S&H early 60's Cca's. Had a pair of the early 70's A-Frame Siemens Cca but sold them.
 
Dec 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM Post #4,112 of 23,494
 
 
That would be nice  
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After owning many Siemens (including many early 60's Gray Shield CCa's and '70s silver shields)- I have to say I'm not a fan of the Siemens 'house sound' (the early '60s being an exception, but $500+ a pr is ridiculous).  I'm a tone guy all the way.  I like a natural rich tone to my sound (partly why I'm into tubes so much).  But I also like detail, transparency and clarity - hard to find together with rich tone.  I have (the HGs)  - but would like to flesh-out all the possibilities in the 'rich tone' class - so I'm curious about the CV2492/2493/5358 .  I have sold my Amperex PWs (just to over the top euphonic) and unfortunately the 6922 CEP-USNs that I bought failed testing on arrival.  I would like to add those as well.

 


I don't have a pair of the S&H early 60's Cca's. Had a pair of the early 70's A-Frame Siemens Cca but sold them.


Those silver shield '70s don't hold a candle to the early 60's grays - IMHO.  The prices they're going for today is shocking - I used to pay $200/pr for the grays and $100/pr for the silvers
 
Dec 10, 2014 at 2:35 PM Post #4,113 of 23,494
Those silver shield '70s don't hold a candle to the early 60's grays - IMHO.  The prices they're going for today is shocking - I used to pay $200/pr for the grays and $100/pr for the silvers

 


Never heard the early 60's Cca's but, like you, the Siemen's signature is a little analytical to my ears. I'm looking for detail...but detail with richness and texture. Will look forward to your review Bob.
 
Dec 10, 2014 at 3:33 PM Post #4,114 of 23,494
What tubes would you recommend with a Schiit Audio Lyr/Bifrost & Audeze LCD-2 setup? I'm currently using stock tubes, but would like to experiment a bit. Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable on the subject of tubes and reading a ton of pages from both threads has confused me even more. I would prefer if the tube pairs were sub <$100/best value for price. Thank you in advance :)
 
Dec 10, 2014 at 4:16 PM Post #4,115 of 23,494
What tubes would you recommend with a Schiit Audio Lyr/Bifrost & Audeze LCD-2 setup? I'm currently using stock tubes, but would like to experiment a bit. Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable on the subject of tubes and reading a ton of pages from both threads has confused me even more. I would prefer if the tube pairs were sub <$100/best value for price. Thank you in advance :)

I have used the Genalex Gold lions in the lyr 2, and compared to the stock tubes the bass sounds great, more impact with out any bloat. The mids open up and become sweeter sounding. Furthermore the SOUNDSTAGE become more holographic, a tad more larger. I will be reviewing the Telefunken E88CC TK tubes, once I have burned them in for another 152 hours. I will compare the TK's with my Telefunken E88CC platinum tubes, as well as the Genalex Gold Lions.
Cheers
Andrew Reddog Jones.
 
Dec 10, 2014 at 7:45 PM Post #4,116 of 23,494
  What tubes would you recommend with a Schiit Audio Lyr/Bifrost & Audeze LCD-2 setup? I'm currently using stock tubes, but would like to experiment a bit. Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable on the subject of tubes and reading a ton of pages from both threads has confused me even more. I would prefer if the tube pairs were sub <$100/best value for price. Thank you in advance :)


A lot of folks have had good luck with the vintage '70s Voskhod Rockets.  You can get some of the early '70s for under $40 a matched pr.
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 11:42 AM Post #4,118 of 23,494
  +1 on the '70's Rockets.  He may be too polite to say so, but rb2013 is an excellent source for them too.

 
Thanks!  Other good choices that many have liked here that are reasonable priced are the Amperex OGs and Philips Miniwatts.
 
I bought a pr of  the E188CC SQ Miniwatts for $68 recently on Ebay.  It's been a while since I've heard the Miniwatts so I'm curious as to revisiting them.
 

 
 
As I've said before there are some amazing bargains out there in 6922/6N23P land right now. 
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 12:06 PM Post #4,119 of 23,494
 
Thanks!  Other good choices that many have liked here that are reasonable priced are the Amperex OGs and Philips Miniwatts.
 
I bought a pr of  the E188CC SQ Miniwatts for $68 recently on Ebay.  It's been a while since I've heard the Miniwatts so I'm curious as to revisiting them.
 

 
 
As I've said before there are some amazing bargains out there in 6922/6N23P land right now. 

 


Hey Bob, what year are those Miniwatts? I'm assuming they are Holland made.
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 12:33 PM Post #4,120 of 23,494
  +1 on the '70's Rockets.  He may be too polite to say so, but rb2013 is an excellent source for them too.


Absolutely, I love the two pairs I have from him. He is, also, very good at answering questions. Very patient.
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM Post #4,121 of 23,494
 
   
Thanks!  Other good choices that many have liked here that are reasonable priced are the Amperex OGs and Philips Miniwatts.
 
I bought a pr of  the E188CC SQ Miniwatts for $68 recently on Ebay.  It's been a while since I've heard the Miniwatts so I'm curious as to revisiting them.
 

 
 
As I've said before there are some amazing bargains out there in 6922/6N23P land right now. 

 


Hey Bob, what year are those Miniwatts? I'm assuming they are Holland made.


I haven't received them yet - so I'll check when I have them.  The dealer said they were made in Holland.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/321596995439?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM Post #4,122 of 23,494
I haven't received them yet - so I'll check when I have them.  The dealer said they were made in Holland.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/321596995439?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 
Looks like "VR9" on one of them (can't make out the year).  IIRC from a previous discussion herein, that would put them late '60s to mid '70s.  I have a pair that we decided are from 1976, and they are VR9s.  Before that discussion, and as they were sold to me, I always thought they were from 1966.  I bow to the greater knowledge of those involved in the discussion.
 
It was mostly based on this, IIRC:  http://www.tubemonger.com/Amperex_Philips_MINT_NOS_NIB_7308_E188CC_Mullard_p/912a.htm
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 1:11 PM Post #4,123 of 23,494
   
Looks like "VR9" on one of them (can't make out the year).  IIRC from a previous discussion herein, that would put them late '60s to mid '70s.  I have a pair that we decided are from 1976, and they are VR9s.  Before that discussion, and as they were sold to me, I always thought they were from 1966.  I bow to the greater knowledge of those involved in the discussion.
 
It was mostly based on this, IIRC:  http://www.tubemonger.com/Amperex_Philips_MINT_NOS_NIB_7308_E188CC_Mullard_p/912a.htm


Good info thanks!
 
I also have these coming - a bit more expensive.
 
 
2 x E88CC (CCa/6922/6DJ8) Valvo Heerlen - Netherlands in box

double stage O getter - grey plates - good printing - gold pins


1 x E88CC Valvo - code on tube: 7LH delta 7B2
1 x E88CC Valvo - code on tube: 7LH delta 7B3
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-E88CC-6922-6DJ8-CCa-Valvo-Heerlen-7LH-code-white-version-100-in-box-/141476215836?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=NVQxzTA5CORYcbbpTl0kBYwRM%252FI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
 
It's going to be a wing-ding grand Lyr tube shootout! 
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM Post #4,124 of 23,494
 
Looks like "VR9" on one of them (can't make out the year).  IIRC from a previous discussion herein, that would put them late '60s to mid '70s.  I have a pair that we decided are from 1976, and they are VR9s.  Before that discussion, and as they were sold to me, I always thought they were from 1966.  I bow to the greater knowledge of those involved in the discussion.
 
It was mostly based on this, IIRC:  http://www.tubemonger.com/Amperex_Philips_MINT_NOS_NIB_7308_E188CC_Mullard_p/912a.htm

 


It would be nice if they were early to mid 60's...I've found the later ones often sound "thinner" and not as 3D. But ya never know. Good luck. Heckuva price no matter what Bob for the 188CC's. I stole a pair of '65's about a month ago for $73 from European Ebay as well.
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 3:11 PM Post #4,125 of 23,494
 
   
Looks like "VR9" on one of them (can't make out the year).  IIRC from a previous discussion herein, that would put them late '60s to mid '70s.  I have a pair that we decided are from 1976, and they are VR9s.  Before that discussion, and as they were sold to me, I always thought they were from 1966.  I bow to the greater knowledge of those involved in the discussion.
 
It was mostly based on this, IIRC:  http://www.tubemonger.com/Amperex_Philips_MINT_NOS_NIB_7308_E188CC_Mullard_p/912a.htm

 


It would be nice if they were early to mid 60's...I've found the later ones often sound "thinner" and not as 3D. But ya never know. Good luck. Heckuva price no matter what Bob for the 188CC's. I stole a pair of '65's about a month ago for $73 from European Ebay as well.


Nice!  Bargains galore - great time to be a tube roller
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