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Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (24-bit/192KHz)
Jan 25, 2014 at 12:43 PM Post #481 of 726
I really get confused !   
 
On one hand I read here that the NOTE 3 can stream 24/192 music WITHOUT Downsampling to a USB DAC using the Google play or Samsung Play software.... which is a VERY good news, but ...on the other hand I see here many people using USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO on the Note 3 to play High-Res files !!
 
So why do they use USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO is the Note 3 is supposed to natively play 24/192 ??
 
I plan to use a Note3 with the CHORD HUGO ....if I can play 24/192 bit-perfect.
 
please help
 
Jan 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM Post #482 of 726
bmichels said:
I really get confused !   

On one hand I read here that the NOTE 3 can stream 24/192 music WITHOUT Downsampling to a USB DAC using the Google play or Samsung Play software.... which is a VERY good news, but ...on the other hand I see here many people using USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO on the Note 3 to play High-Res files !!

So why do they use USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO is the Note 3 is supposed to natively play 24/192 ??

I plan to use a Note3 with the CHORD HUGO ....if I can play 24/192 bit-perfect.

please help
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I do not know if it can stream via usb a 24/192 signal, as my dacs only go to 24/96. Are you perhaps thinking of the note 3 built in ability to play back 24/192 in its own headphone output? I do have 24/192 content and confirm that my stock Samsung music player does play it back with a "HD 24/192" logo in the corner of the screen.
I hook my HRT microstreamer via USB to my note 3, and when using any of the usual apps (Google play music, Samsung stock music player, poweramp), the output signal is a multiple of 48k no matter what. My 44.1 content is up sampled by Android to 48k, and my microstreamer 48k led illuminates. When I have 48k, I assume it is output as is since 48k lights up on the microstreamer. 88.2k, 96k, and 192k content all illuminate the 96k led of my microstreamer. So it resamples all signals to the nearest 48k denominator. Fyi, hrt microstreamer supports 16/24 bit, 32k, 44.1, 48, 88.2, and 96k.

Now, when I use usb audio player pro, that requests usb audio exclusive control. That will then output my files in original sample rate. 44.1k flac illuminates the 44.1k led on my microstreamer. Same 1:1 matching for my 48, 88.2, and 96k content illuminating the correct led on the microstreamer. 192k content downs to 96k obviously (max supported by hrt).

So for my locally stored files, I play thru UAPP for purity's sake, and when I want to stream music thru Google play music, I must settle for up sampling to 48k.

Hopefully that helps your analysis.

Edit: USA Verizon note 3 sm-n900v. Rooted with a themed rom (from based off stock rom tho, so not sure root state matters here).
 
Jan 25, 2014 at 2:56 PM Post #483 of 726
kayza said:
I do not know if it can stream via usb a 24/192 signal, as my dacs only go to 24/96. Are you perhaps thinking of the note 3 built in ability to play back 24/192 in its own headphone output? I do have 24/192 content and confirm that my stock Samsung music player does play it back with a "HD 24/192" logo in the corner of the screen.
I hook my HRT microstreamer via USB to my note 3, and when using any of the usual apps (Google play music, Samsung stock music player, poweramp), the output signal is a multiple of 48k no matter what. My 44.1 content is up sampled by Android to 48k, and my microstreamer 48k led illuminates. When I have 48k, I assume it is output as is since 48k lights up on the microstreamer. 88.2k, 96k, and 192k content all illuminate the 96k led of my microstreamer. So it resamples all signals to the nearest 48k denominator. Fyi, hrt microstreamer supports 16/24 bit, 32k, 44.1, 48, 88.2, and 96k.

Now, when I use usb audio player pro, that requests usb audio exclusive control. That will then output my files in original sample rate. 44.1k flac illuminates the 44.1k led on my microstreamer. Same 1:1 matching for my 48, 88.2, and 96k content illuminating the correct led on the microstreamer. 192k content downs to 96k obviously (max supported by hrt).

So for my locally stored files, I play thru UAPP for purity's sake, and when I want to stream music thru Google play music, I must settle for up sampling to 48k.

Hopefully that helps your analysis.

Edit: USA Verizon note 3 sm-n900v. Rooted with a themed rom (from based off stock rom tho, so not sure root state matters here).
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Thanks a lot.  So, basically, with any player, it should be OK with 48, 92 & (may be) 192 mHz.  :wink:
 
But... The other question is : Does 24 bits file stay 24 bits or are they converted to 16 bits ???
 
Jan 25, 2014 at 3:22 PM Post #484 of 726
In Samsung's player and via USBAPP they will remain 24-bit (not sure about Google Music as I don't use it).
 
Jan 25, 2014 at 3:27 PM Post #485 of 726
Feb 7, 2014 at 9:09 AM Post #487 of 726
So, if we all need USBAPP to get the most out of the Note3, then we need some more advanced graphical UI (with cover arts), and dynamic Playlists
 
 
Look at Calyx M DAP UI:
 
 
 
In Calyx's playlist system, on the DAP, you can:
 
1 - Manage of dynamic playlists,  decide "play next", "play last"... 
2 - Change order of the songs inside a playlist by just dragging/sliding a song within the list (of the playlist). 
 
LOOK AT THIS DEMO OF CALYX UI !  Brillant !! This is what we all need implemented in USBAPP
 

 
Feb 7, 2014 at 5:06 PM Post #489 of 726
Ok, I've been listening to Note 3 for quite a while with Neutron Player.
Sounds like an improved Sansa for me. The Apple IPAD Air( I guess phone5s and pod5g sound the same) has better detail, imaging and better extended highs and with no signs of hiss trying with most sensitive IEMs.
But I can live with the smooth, warm and nonfatiguating sound of the Note 3. The sound is certainly good enough and very likeable. 
 
Note 2(rooted with voodoo) with Samsung has a bigger Soundstage and sounds more analytical, but the hiss with sensitive IEM's is big. Woudln't call the Note 3 a downgrade.
 
Feb 10, 2014 at 1:36 PM Post #490 of 726
Has anyone tested  AirStash.that seems to be a "magic" solution to our Note3 storage issues ?
 


 
Feb 10, 2014 at 3:31 PM Post #492 of 726
turokrocks said:
   
 I did some extensive testing for 3 days between both using my JH16, and I concluded , both have their weaknesses and strong points in SQ, but all I can say is that I kept the snapdragon version because it was able to run with almost all my dacs , where as the exynos was not.
 
This is my choice, and I am not saying the snapdragon is better in SQ.

 
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Mind sharing where u got that cable from???
 
Feb 10, 2014 at 3:34 PM Post #493 of 726
Feb 10, 2014 at 3:43 PM Post #495 of 726
akash neagi said:
  I checked their website but couldn't find it...
Did you have them custom make it for you???
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Yes
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