REVIEW SUMMARY: A ranking of 32 tube and tube/hybrid headphone amps
Mar 5, 2009 at 12:29 AM Post #46 of 484
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No, the Ming-Da MC84-C-07 would be the higher-end amp in the Ming-Da line-up for sure.


I asked becouse the Mc66 cost more in some store and on paper has better spec, than the Mc84 is definitely better than the MC66?

And you know how can be compared the MC84 to the Darkvoice line (It would be better than the 332-3322? Considering that from your charts is better than 336 and worse than 337)?
It would be good a good choice for the Hd650?


Thanks, Dario.
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Mar 5, 2009 at 1:40 AM Post #47 of 484
Well I have not listened to them, so I guess I shouldn't say for sure, but based on the tube complement I would assume the 84-07C would be the superior amp.
 
Mar 5, 2009 at 8:57 AM Post #48 of 484
Thanks for the comparisons. You have to come to Copenhagen to compare my MAD EAR+HD!

I just saw your superb RedWine Isabella review and posted a question over there about where the Isabella stood in relation to the border between transparency and sterility. I personally prefer equipment that focuses on presenting a musical performance as a whole and not a purely technical rendition of the music - perfectly detailed, transparent and neutral. Audio Note is very good at this.
 
Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM Post #49 of 484
I agree with you 100% (and answered in that review thread).

Will let you know when I am next in Copenhagen
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I was in Oulu, Finland in November, so stranger things have happened...
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM Post #50 of 484
Mar 7, 2009 at 12:25 AM Post #51 of 484
Skylab have you ever thought of doing a review of the ming da mc84 c07? It's a very underated amp, and for that price it can't be beat imo. I think a lot of people don't know about it and probably spend more on a lesser sounding amp. Just my .02 cents though.
 
Mar 7, 2009 at 1:19 AM Post #52 of 484
Well, the MC84-07C *IS* on this list - you saw that, yes?

I made a lot of comments on it in the thread that covers it. I have not "formally" reviewed it, but I've commented on it extensively. I like it a LOT - great amp. I use it with my DT770/600's - truly wonderful pairing.
 
Mar 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM Post #54 of 484
I also have the Ming Da MC84-07C and use it both with dt990/600, and modded K340. Yes, it is a steal and a piece of "audio art" - physically beautiful.

Like most other amps produced in the mysterious east - you want to upgrade the tubes. I found that basically, orig. (meaning not the current production) Mullard EL84, and Raytheon 5751/windmill work beautifully for me. Changing the their stock green tube to Amperex 6HU6 also made a significant difference. I haven't gotten arround trying some of the other 6HU6 alternatives.
 
Mar 7, 2009 at 1:52 PM Post #55 of 484
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Yeah I *SAW* it on the list. I was just asking about a "formal" review of it like most of the other amps that's on the list, but never mind.


OK thanks - I wasn't trying to be rude, just clarifying. I have some other amps coming in for review but I will write up the Ming-Da when I get some time. You are 100% right - it is a great amp, and definitely underrated!
 
Mar 7, 2009 at 2:37 PM Post #57 of 484
It does use somewhat expensive tube types - that is one potential disadvantage in some respects. A good set-up of all NOS Sylvania or RCA tubes will cost $100-120.
 
Mar 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM Post #58 of 484
Tubes for it can be expensive, but even after buying all nos tubes, the price wil still be in the 500-550 range. That (IMO) will still be a bargin for this amp. And on to of that, it looks just as good as it sounds. If you notice, in the rankings the few amps Skylab likes better cost significantly more than this amp, and quite a few ranked below it are more expensive.
 
Mar 7, 2009 at 7:37 PM Post #59 of 484
would be interesting know how it compare to amp like the new 3322 at this point and than how the 337 compare to the 3322, becouse from what they say, they do now only the 337se...
also the internal pictures of the MC84 seems to be inferior to the internal pictures of the 3322 but they are just pictures...

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Mar 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM Post #60 of 484
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Originally Posted by moodyrn /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Tubes for it can be expensive, but even after buying all nos tubes, the price wil still be in the 500-550 range. That (IMO) will still be a bargin for this amp. And on to of that, it looks just as good as it sounds. If you notice, in the rankings the few amps Skylab likes better cost significantly more than this amp, and quite a few ranked below it are more expensive.


YUP! I really enjoy the Ming-Da - it has hung in there with more expensive amps and done very well.
 

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