[vilhelm44]

   
Don't forget about the LG V10.
 

 I have been reading about that but would rather have a seperate DAP.

 

[asheesh]

What's type of balanced cable has to purchased for this DAP in process of ordering one from Toxic cables

 

[Whitigir]

 I have been reading about that but would rather have a seperate DAP.

Certainly seeing your point. This dap does have balanced output vs V10 as a mid-tier Dap only. I would pick this one vs V10 all day long. But v10 is extremely of value when it comes to having both a smartphone and somewhat into high-end sound quality as well. All of a sudden, the v10 makes other mid-tier daps irrelevant

 

[Sonic Defender]

Certainly seeing your point. This dap does have balanced output vs V10 as a mid-tier Dap only. I would pick this one vs V10 all day long. But v10 is extremely of value when it comes to having both a smartphone and somewhat into high-end sound quality as well. All of a sudden, the v10 makes other mid-tier daps irrelevant

Depending on output power for the V10. If it only has a modest amplifier then it still isn't the solution for those who need more power. I'm not talking driving 600ohm headphones, but even efficient headphones when listening to quiet mastered (typically older) material need more amplification than most phones have. The DAC is only one thing, and frankly I think for mobile/portable use most DACs will sound pretty good. Even my Blackberry Leap sounds quite good, it just has crappy power output.

 

[Sonic Defender]

What's type of balanced cable has to purchased for this DAP in process of ordering one from Toxic cables

The TRRS connector on the Onkyo is the same as for Astell & Kern DAPs. The headphone connector pinout needs to be considered as well.

 

[gr8soundz]

Certainly seeing your point. This dap does have balanced output vs V10 as a mid-tier Dap only. I would pick this one vs V10 all day long. But v10 is extremely of value when it comes to having both a smartphone and somewhat into high-end sound quality as well. All of a sudden, the v10 makes other mid-tier daps irrelevant

 
Not sure I'd call the V10 mid-tier (just because its also a cell phone). Tested mine against my iBasso R10 (DX100) which (afaik) is still among TOTL daps and the V10 is 90-95% close to it. Its that good.
 
I would rather have balanced out like the DP-X1 as well but carrying a separate dac with half the ram and possible worse UI issues/bugs isn't appealing.
 

  Depending on output power for the V10. If it only has a modest amplifier then it still isn't the solution for those who need more power. I'm not talking driving 600ohm headphones, but even efficient headphones when listening to quiet mastered (typically older) material need more amplification than most phones have. The DAC is only one thing, and frankly I think for mobile/portable use most DACs will sound pretty good. Even my Blackberry Leap sounds quite good, it just has crappy power output.

 
The V10's ESS amp says it can handle headphones up to 600 ohms so up to 300 is no problem. As long as the individual headphone spec is 50 ohms or higher it will default to high power (drives my Fostex mk3s with ease). Only daps I know of that put out more power are the DX100 and Questyle QP1.
 

 

[T.R.A.N.C.E.]

I got my Onkyo HA300, now I need the DP-X1 to complete my Onkyo dap collection 

 

 

[PoRidge]

wait, that is a dap, the ha300?

 

[Watagump]

wait, that is a dap, the ha300?

 
DAC, all in one.

 

[RamblerBoy]

how much does the pioneer one cost?

 

[T.R.A.N.C.E.]

wait, that is a dap, the ha300?

 
Yes it is a dap and dac/amp. Sound is excellent.

 

[Cagin]

  how much does the pioneer one cost?

XDP-100R
59,800円(税込価格：64,584円)  Onkyodirect.jp
 
Not yet listed on PriceJapan

 

[RamblerBoy]

Thanks. Why are they priced the same? Isn't the onkyo one considered as the flagship With better specs?

 

[Cagin]

Thanks. Why are they priced the same? Isn't the onkyo one considered as the flagship With better specs?

Hmm but they aren't priced the same 

  10k yen delta.  I prefer the Onkyo one for sure, but if you want speakers, go for Pioneer ^^
 
 
 
DP-X1
69,800円(税込価格：75,384円) Onkyodirect.jp
 
64,900 on PriceJapan
http://pricejapan.com/front/e_good_info.php?code=1615&category=17

 

[Orky261]

Anyone has experience with Yodobashi nearing product launch? It's still 28th of November on their site, can it be trusted?