Grado77,
No, I have not even heard the D5000 or D7000, I merely listened to the D2000 for a short time - that's why I wrote that I cannot draw any comparisons. I merely wished to point out that while the Dx000 were in production, criticism was not unusual (which doesn't mean that the D5/7000 were bad, of course), yet now that they're discontinued they're being glorified. Perhaps justly so, I'm in no position to judge.
As for sources an amplification, with respect, not even the fanciest DAC or amplifier will not remove basic problems caused by the headphone's design such as resonances. The Fostex T50RP is an excellent example of what can be achieved by adding some cheap foam into the earcups - the same was done (even before the T50RP became popular, I think) with the Dx000, most prominently known as the MarkL mod. Not having owned or heard the D5/7000 I can't judge the improvement these mods make, but based on other people's opinions they did solve some issues (such as resonances/bloated bass). And perhaps something can be done with the D600/7100 too to improve things.
elwappo99,
Please be so kind to point out where I'm being subjective and trying to defend my purchase of the D7100. I think I've stated multiple times that they're not worth their asking price and that other headphones such as the HD800 are clearly superior.
). So main point... IT MAY measure bad but IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT X-specific headphone is bad sounding!!!
).
SRh1840s seem to have a lot of distortion and I find their sound "pleasant", "full-sounding" (probably because of said distortion and basically confirmed by purrin also), and a pleasure to listen... (just not worth $600
Anyway, my initial impressions have not really changed:
At this point (after 1 week), sub-bass is still the same, Midbass sounds the same, and sometimes highs sound wonky... BUT it is not a bad listen at all. The graphs Tyll showed and commented on mentioned lack of highs, I actually find them a bit bright and highs extends well to my ears so I don't know about that... Not to Shure levels of course, but they are present.
Are they better than the D5000s?
Depends on what you want!
If you want a decent sound with good quality bass, good isolation and no sound leakage, then the D600s might be up your alley.
If you don't care about leakage, isolation and like a strong sub-bass (even if a bit uncontrolled bass) with good mids and highs, then go with the D5000s.
Which one I prefer between these 2? The older gen one... but again, the D600s is NOT bad sounding. But now the question becomes, is there anything else better than the D600s on that price range? And the answer is ... yes.
But as everything, we go back again and have to talk about what the user would want regarding not only sound quality, but comfort, sound leakage, etc. etc.
Right now I'm using the Mad Dogs (and also have the D600s here beside me) and I'm enjoying the Mad Dogs very much... They don't have as good a punch as the D600 in the midbass/bass and maybe not enough sub-bass either BUT across the board they sound more pleasing (and highs don't sound "wonky"!
elwappo99,
Please be so kind to point out where I'm being subjective and trying to defend my purchase of the D7100. I think I've stated multiple times that they're not worth their asking price and that other headphones such as the HD800 are clearly superior.
Some photos of the internals:
Driver outside
Driver inside
Cup inside - note the foam-ish dampening material. I wonder why it's just in the lower half of the cups?
The cups seem to be quite shallow, the driver probably almost touches the center part of the cups. Still, I wonder what could be achieved by dampening the entire outer part of the cups.
Some photos of the internals:
.
