Hifiman HE1000 Planar Dynamic Headphone
May 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM Post #3,691 of 14,704
Mine arrived. I'm comparing them to the Ethers primarily. The HE1000s are more "around your head" while the Ethers are more "in your head". The deep bass seems to really rumble and they are already picking up micro details which I hadn't noticed on some tracks. The treble is a tiny bit irritating, but I don't know if they need some use before this will change. 


Hotter than T1's treble?
 
May 11, 2015 at 1:30 PM Post #3,692 of 14,704
Not as hot or peaky as T1. HE-1000 "splashy" treble can be tamed somewhat with tubes. A thin layer of low density open cell foam paper might also do the trick.
 
May 11, 2015 at 1:31 PM Post #3,693 of 14,704
Sounds maybe like a Draug2 cable would be appropriate here, as the comments remind me of my HE560 signature. The Draug2 completely ameliorated the upper mid aggression and slight sizzle in the highs with the 560 and left everything else intact (and with improved texture and greater image-palpability and plumpness, more like the strengths of a dynamic phone, with less of a flat plate image syndrome).
The Draug/560 is a match made in heaven imho. It makes my 560 sound quite nice.
Sorry for the idle chatter, just wanted to make a helpful suggestion based on my Hifiman experience.
 
May 11, 2015 at 2:23 PM Post #3,694 of 14,704
I have a hard time believing that HE-1000 is as bright as the rest of the HiFiMan lineup. I only recently found the treble tolerable on the 560. I ran my hottest tracks through them at axpona, lots of sibilants, and found them nowhere near that hot. I feel like the Ether probably rolls off after 6k or something that would make them seem comparatively more tame up high, because the He-1000 wasn't really hot at all to me, and I'm an old Audez'e man.

Kojaku
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:07 PM Post #3,695 of 14,704

 
Oh hey, father and son photo!
 
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May 11, 2015 at 3:12 PM Post #3,696 of 14,704
  Not as hot or peaky as T1. HE-1000 "splashy" treble can be tamed somewhat with tubes. A thin layer of low density open cell foam paper might also do the trick.

 
If we have to mod the headphones, which will cost three thousand dollars, to make sound correct the headphone itself is not worth it from the start.
 
I really hope Dr. Fang adjusts the headphones again if treble is becoming an issue.
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:18 PM Post #3,697 of 14,704
I have a hard time believing that HE-1000 is as bright as the rest of the HiFiMan lineup.

 
Not so much "bright" as the rest (not sure who said that), but rather different kind of bright. HE-1000 had a bit of "splashy" treble, but preferable compared to HE-560 (harsh / sibilant) and HE-6 (etched), at least to my tastes. Really just nitpicking. Expensive TOTL stuff should be nitpicked. YMMV. For FWIW, throw a smooth tube DAC like SFD in front of it, and everything should be fine.
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:27 PM Post #3,698 of 14,704
   
Not so much "bright" as the rest (not sure who said that), but rather different kind of bright. HE-1000 had a bit of "splashy" treble, but preferable compared to HE-560 (harsh / sibilant) and HE-6 (etched), at least to my tastes. Really just nitpicking. Expensive TOTL stuff should be nitpicked. YMMV. For FWIW, throw a smooth tube DAC like SFD in front of it, and everything should be fine.

I can appreciate that. Splashy treble gets a bit more of that post-ring, rather than all the energy coming raging at your eardrum in a single peak, like I felt the HE-6 does. We'll have to wait a bit for good DAC/amp pairings, though.
 
Kojaku
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:30 PM Post #3,699 of 14,704
Not so much "bright" as the rest (not sure who said that), but rather different kind of bright. HE-1000 had a bit of "splashy" treble, but preferable compared to HE-560 (harsh / sibilant) and HE-6 (etched), at least to my tastes. Really just nitpicking. Expensive TOTL stuff should be nitpicked. YMMV. For FWIW, throw a smooth tube DAC like SFD in front of it, and everything should be fine.


I guess there are small chinks in the mighty HE1000's armor after all. Lol.
In all seriousness though folks, NO headphone, amp, source, etc., is going to be perfect, no matter how expensive they are.
They all are going to have their trade offs, plus they all will appeal to different tastes, and also will vary according to upstream components.
The late Sennheiser Orpheus, the Abyss, the Stax SR009, etc., all have small flaws too, and they all cost CONSIDERABLY more than the HE1000....
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:31 PM Post #3,700 of 14,704
   
Oh hey, father and son photo!
 
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Goin' for that custom title, "Son of Jude". C'mon, Currawong, I know you're watching this thread. Make it happen.
 
Kojaku
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:43 PM Post #3,701 of 14,704
  Not so much "bright" as the rest (not sure who said that), but rather different kind of bright. HE-1000 had a bit of "splashy" treble, but preferable compared to HE-560 (harsh / sibilant) and HE-6 (etched), at least to my tastes. Really just nitpicking. Expensive TOTL stuff should be nitpicked. YMMV. For FWIW, throw a smooth tube DAC like SFD in front of it, and everything should be fine.

@purrin, could you explain the differences between splashy treble and etched treble? thank you
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:45 PM Post #3,702 of 14,704
May 11, 2015 at 3:50 PM Post #3,704 of 14,704
  @purrin, could you explain the differences between splashy treble and etched treble? thank you


Unfortunately no. They are metaphors that don't necessarily correlate well to measurements. Maybe a 9kHz emphasis / bump on HE-1000? Maybe higher...
 
I'd concentrate on what the HE-1000 does well too.
 
May 11, 2015 at 3:56 PM Post #3,705 of 14,704
You can't offer any explanation?  Then how does someone go about learning what the difference is?
 

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