bavinck
Headphoneus Supremus
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Yes, sorry I forgot to mention, I am using my he500 exclusive for the above observations.
Thank you. Very interesting indeed. So you are getting this from the HE-500, not the K7XX?
Thanks Hibuck,
I think (hope) that my 'old skool, new tech' hybrid source will portray the quality of the recordings that it's fed, without emphasising the thin stuff, too much.
You're right; some recordings, particularly a lot of the 90's rock/grunge that I like, is mixed to sound 'exciting' on the radio, or less than transparent hifi. But when played on revealing equipment it can have you gritting your teeth, cringing or wishing that you'd kept your old system, with those tone controls (to filter out half of the music).
At least, with the combination of LCD-2F and H10, it seems I'll have a good idea of true north (once they've both had a good few hours of burn-in!).
This has been my experience. I was ready to give in to despair after about 20 hours. The change in the next 30 hours was considerable. My main music genre is Classic Rock. There are some tracks that are completely unlistenable. Particularly bad are mono recordings converted to stereo(think older Beatles and some Doors). The tracks recorded well will sound fantastic with the H10 +LCD-2f(that's what I have) and you learn to accept the other tracks as they are or play them in your car.
How would you describe the change that occurred with the h10, to your ears?
Well, your above description certainly 'rang a bell' with me.
I would have very much appreciated your input in a discussion about the HE400 http://www.head-fi.org/t/741024/he-400-bass-not-as-present-as-i-expected
I've now sold my he400s, because both bass and mids lacked body and I also found the upper mids often to be a little too 'screechy' or 'ringy'. Actually they weren't that bad; I just decided that the LCD 2 should be a worthwhile improvement; they'll (hopefully) arrive soon.
So, that leaves the question of the amp; your description seems to suggest that maybe my current amp hasn't got enough steam for planars.
That wouldn't be too surprising; it's a Beyer A1 clone, which has about 0.5 watt (??? impedance). It's designed for the T-1, not planars.
But I wasn't sure; it has plenty enough power to get the he400 very loud, without distorting or losing any impact. In fact, the only time that I ever heard any 'weakness' was when listening to the treble shy and bass heavy Peter Gabriel 'Us' album; cranking the volume up to nearly 4 O'clock (for a few seconds) produced some tell-tale break-up. But only then, and that's hardly surprising; my normal he400 listening was at the 11-12 o'clock position. (I always wanted to turn it up, to fill out the bass, but the screechy mids and sibilant treble would soon have me turning the knob back).
As I'm currently living somewhere where it's very easy for me to get hold of Chinese domestic products, reading how so many are so impressed by the H10 (particularly with planar hps), then once I've burnt the LCD2s in a little, I know for sure what my next 'wife exasperating' purchase will be!
Have you tried Hqplayer? If not, please do and let me know if you think it affects sq with your h10
I have never heard if it. I use Foobar. I will try though later.
Well then, imo you are in for a real sq treat! The interface and library capabilities are definitely lacking, but the sq.....
Quote:+How would you describe the change that occurred with the h10, to your ears?
First qualification is that this is my first Hifi headphone system. Second qualification is that I purchased the system (X12 + H10 + Lcd-2f) at the same time so I cannot point to one particular component(also lacking experience) and say this is causing this.
Initially I found everything to be quite congested. Only on tracks with acoustic instruments and vocals could I get separation. The mids especially vocals were pushed forward and dominated lows and highs. After about 30 hours the soundstage began to expand and the bass began to round in to shape. I still find the bass somewhat weak but at least its there. I agree that something in this system is very revealing(again lack of experience) because some of my favorite music is now only marginally listenable. I reripped everything to Apple lossless so I must accept that the original source weakness is to blame for some of what I heard.
If the sound is different than in other players then it's altering it. So what you are hearing is some eq
I have about 80 hours on my H10 right now and with HE500's listening to Nils Lofgren's Acoustic Live I can't believe how good it sounds. Clear without being analytical, warm
without being syrupy and great bass/transient response. I've been in the audio game for 45 years, so it's not my first rodeo, but my jaw is hanging open.:basshead:
Hibuck....