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Apr 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM Post #8,222 of 15,899
Titan 5 perhaps?. Anyone know cost on these?

 
The Titan 3 and 5 have one vent on the inside and this seems to have 3 if im not mistaken. I'm really sorry for going off topic. Apologies
 
Apr 25, 2017 at 11:43 AM Post #8,224 of 15,899
@FiiO

I have a Fiio_test app in my X5 3rd gen. When I fire up the app and plug in my device into a USB port, it can detect two states:

USB_SDP and USB_CDP

USB_SDP detects the device, I'm able to mount the drives. USB_CDP doesn't. This is on the same laptop with two different USB ports.

So from my understanding, the only reason why the device would not mount drives on a computer is if that computer's ports are not powered the same way. Any input on that on your part?

Thanks!

**edit** Info on SDP vs CDP:

Standard Downstream Port (SDP) refers to a port on a host or hub that’s compliant with USB 2.0 specifications. This means a SDP port can provide different power, depending upon the state of connection with the USB device. An SDP port expects a downstream device to have the following maximum current consumption in different states:


  1. 2.5mA when the device is in a suspended state
  2. 100mA when connected and not configured
  3. 500mA or the amount of current requested by the device’s configuration descriptor, whichever is less, when configured

When a USB device is connected to a SDP, the device can draw 100mA and up to 500mA once the device is enumerated successfully by the host. The charging setup as described for the personal computer example of the previous section represents a Standard Downstream Port.

Charging Downstream Port (CDP) refers to a port on a host or hub that’s compliant with USB 2.0 specifications. But unlike the SDP, a CDP port allows a USB device to draw more current, thereby facilitating faster charging. When a portable device is connected to a charging port, it is expected to behave in the following way:

  1. 2.5mA when the device is in a suspended state
  2. 100mA when it is connected and not configuUSred
  3. Maximum of 1.5A when configured

Source: http://www.embedded.com/design/powe...ttery-charging-protocols-Android-based-design

**edit** So the site upgrade removed part of my post...

Charging downstream port (CDP) BC1.1 defines this new, higher current USB port for PCs, laptops, and other hardware. Now the CDP can supply up to 1.5A, which is a departure from USB 2.0 because this current can be supplied before enumeration. A device plugged into a CDP can recognize it as such by means of a hardware handshake implemented by manipulating and monitoring the D+ and D- lines. (See USB Battery Charging Specification, section 3.2.3.) The hardware test takes place before turning the data lines over to the USB transceiver, thus allowing a CDP to be detected (and charging to begin) before enumeration.

Here's more information on CDP. So a hardware handshake failure between Fiio X5 and USB port??
 
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Apr 26, 2017 at 9:07 PM Post #8,225 of 15,899
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As My toddler son used to say “Hth fpritty!”
 
Apr 26, 2017 at 9:23 PM Post #8,227 of 15,899
Just to add to the whole USB issue: I'm on an old gaming laptop (Asus G46) that has 2 USB 2.0 ports and 1 USB 3.0 port. My X5-III can be detected by both 2.0 ports, but it can't from the 3.0. Very minor inconvenience, but I hope to see some sort of fix soon.
 
Apr 26, 2017 at 9:51 PM Post #8,228 of 15,899
I'm a new user with the X5iii (upgraded from the X5i) but why isn't the led in the on/off switch blinking when it's charging? I believe the X7 has that option.

Dear Eddy Flycatcher,

Yes, the X5III doesn't have the Pulsar light like the X7, so it doen't have the option like the X7.

Best regards
 
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Apr 26, 2017 at 10:07 PM Post #8,229 of 15,899
I have some strange issues @FiiO

1) whenever I let my device on idle for long, and restart it , it goes a particular song. The song is beautiful but it is one song it always restarts from. I have tried thinking what could be the reason but I have no idea
2) There is an audible "click" when i move from one song to other (24bit Flacs)
3) This one too is bit odd, Fiio's randomiser or shuffle seems to have a set pattern. I have two micro SD cards 128gb each, full almost to the brim. However, Shuffle seems to be following a "route" like I can now tell what song will come next.


On a good note, I have rediscovered my love for Offspring and Motley Crue, they sound soooooo good.

Dear antz123,

1. Have you turn on the resume mode but the issue stays? Where are you play the song from?
2. You can hear the 'click' you mentioned when switch from same sampling rate or different?
3. As for the shuffle you mentioned, we will report to our engineers and have a look about it.

Best regards
 
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Apr 26, 2017 at 10:26 PM Post #8,231 of 15,899
I was kinda having withdrawal ... glad its back. Now to some more poking and prodding about the new FW :ksc75smile:
 
Apr 26, 2017 at 10:39 PM Post #8,232 of 15,899
My Fiio music wont even start, it loads with a black screen and then says 'sorry an exception occurs' It does this in Android and when I also switch to pure music. I've twice deleted the cache, data, album art, removed database, then it starts with the 'tuition walkthrough' I scan for music, then at the end of the scan process it just freezes again and I can't start it. I've pretty much given up on this app and using third party apps now.

Dear Nigel Harrison,

Sorry to hear about that. What's the firmware version of your X5III now? The issue stays even you have clear the data of FiiO Music from Settings--Apps--All--FiiO Music?

Best regards
 
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Apr 26, 2017 at 10:54 PM Post #8,234 of 15,899
@FiiO

I have a Fiio_test app in my X5 3rd gen. When I fire up the app and plug in my device into a USB port, it can detect two states:

USB_SDP and USB_CDP

USB_SDP detects the device, I'm able to mount the drives. USB_CDP doesn't. This is on the same laptop with two different USB ports.

So from my understanding, the only reason why the device would not mount drives on a computer is if that computer's ports are not powered the same way. Any input on that on your part?

Thanks!

**edit** Info on SDP vs CDP:

Standard Downstream Port (SDP) refers to a port on a host or hub that’s compliant with USB 2.0 specifications. This means a SDP port can provide different power, depending upon the state of connection with the USB device. An SDP port expects a downstream device to have the following maximum current consumption in different states:


  1. 2.5mA when the device is in a suspended state
  2. 100mA when connected and not configured
  3. 500mA or the amount of current requested by the device’s configuration descriptor, whichever is less, when configured

When a USB device is connected to a SDP, the device can draw 100mA and up to 500mA once the device is enumerated successfully by the host. The charging setup as described for the personal computer example of the previous section represents a Standard Downstream Port.

Charging Downstream Port (CDP) refers to a port on a host or hub that’s compliant with USB 2.0 specifications. But unlike the SDP, a CDP port allows a USB device to draw more current, thereby facilitating faster charging. When a portable device is connected to a charging port, it is expected to behave in the following way:

  1. 2.5mA when the device is in a suspended state
  2. 100mA when it is connected and not configuUSred
  3. Maximum of 1.5A when configured

Source: http://www.embedded.com/design/powe...ttery-charging-protocols-Android-based-design

**edit** So the site upgrade removed part of my post...

Charging downstream port (CDP) BC1.1 defines this new, higher current USB port for PCs, laptops, and other hardware. Now the CDP can supply up to 1.5A, which is a departure from USB 2.0 because this current can be supplied before enumeration. A device plugged into a CDP can recognize it as such by means of a hardware handshake implemented by manipulating and monitoring the D+ and D- lines. (See USB Battery Charging Specification, section 3.2.3.) The hardware test takes place before turning the data lines over to the USB transceiver, thus allowing a CDP to be detected (and charging to begin) before enumeration.

Here's more information on CDP. So a hardware handshake failure between Fiio X5 and USB port??

Dear Karendar,

Thank you so much for the information you provided. We are contacting our engineers and looking about this issue. If we have any progress, we will contact you about that. Sorry for bringing inconvenience to you. If you have any new discovery, please also feel free to contact us.

Best regards
 
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Apr 26, 2017 at 11:00 PM Post #8,235 of 15,899
Now lets get back to business and @FiiO I understand that you ran into a roadblock on the new FW. Could you update us as to what exactly is happening if you don't mind. Thanks a lot.
 

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