[UntilThen]

Nature's colour

 

[HOWIE13]

These seem very good value for  6080 tubes?
 
Does anyone know anything about them?
 
I can't find anything sonically about them on the web. It seems Philips opened a factory in the USA in the '80's to manufacture for the Military.
 
Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks.
 
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6080WC-JAN-PHILIPS-ECG-NOS-VALVE-TUBE/311446894575?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D

 

[UntilThen]

I've not tried those ones. I do have these singles. Clear sound but lacking warm. I didn't find them appealing to my ears.
 

 


These Mullard 6080 does sound better. More weight to the tone, very clear high notes and a solid bass. Good soundstage too. For GBP30 each.
 


There's only one way to find out about those Philips ECG 6080WC. Buy them and try it. 

 

[UntilThen]

O m g ! I've been using my modded HD650 for 4 days and as soon as I got home and set up my head-fi, I put on my T1 and.....
 
light bulbs start flashing, fairy dust start floating downwards. The T1 are so revealing !!! I hear everything !!! Yes everything. 

 
Long story short... @oshipao get a T1.... now.
 
This vv
 

 

[HOWIE13]

  I've not tried those ones. I do have these singles. Clear sound but lacking warm. I didn't find them appealing to my ears.
 

 


These Mullard 6080 does sound better. More weight to the tone, very clear high notes and a solid bass. Good soundstage too. For GBP30 each.
 


There's only one way to find out about those Philips ECG 6080WC. Buy them and try it. 

 
 
Good thinking- at this price worth a listen. I did some further reading and it seems Philps bought Sylvania's factory in the '80's
 
I have those Mullards-at least similar ones marked KB/QDD. Very clear and quiet tube. Would match with warm drivers I would think but have not had a chance to listen at length to them yet.
 
I'll purchase the Philips and compare the two.
 
Cheers.

 

[DavidA]

  O m g ! I've been using my modded HD650 for 4 days and as soon as I got home and set up my head-fi, I put on my T1 and.....
 
light bulbs start flashing, fairy dust start floating downwards. The T1 are so revealing !!! I hear everything !!! Yes everything. 

 
Long story short... @oshipao get a T1.... now.
 
This vv
 

I can see the mini-xlr on the one on the right, what type of connector is on the one on the left?  (or is that a gen2) And did you do the mods?

 

[UntilThen]

Oh those are not my T1s That's a photo of the Gen 2 on the right. Not sure of the left. Picture off the internet.
 
Mine is still with the 7N OCC copper cable. Sounds good to me so I didn't touch it. Here is a photo.
 

 

[UntilThen]

That photo of the 2 T1s. One on the left is T1 G2. One on the right is T1 G1 modified with detachable cable. 
 
You can see it in this review of the 2 versions.
 

 

[connieflyer]

As good as vacations are it can be relaxing to just get back home to the things that are familiar.  Welcome home!

 

[DavidA]

@UntilThen, I figured the one on the right is a modded T1, looks the same as mine after installing the mini-XLR jack.

 

[UntilThen]

  @UntilThen, I figured the one on the right is a modded T1, looks the same as mine after installing the mini-XLR jack.

Yup can't fool you.  I've often wondered about the Gen2. I think it should sound good too with better bass. There's no mistaking the T1 sound signature. 
 
@supersonic395 loves his stock T1 G2.

 

[DavidA]

 
Yup can't fool you.  I've often wondered about the Gen2. I think it should sound good too with better bass. There's no mistaking the T1 sound signature. 
 
@supersonic395 loves his stock T1 G2.

I've considered getting a T1g2 since it looks like my T1g1 might not be returning from my son anytime soon but I think I would rather get the HD-800S first since I've heard them a few times and for some genres of music its a much better headphone than the original, much or musical sounding, but for classical the original is still tops to me.
 
I haven't really been interested in the T1g2 since a friend who has both said he could live with either since they are much closer in sound signature than the HD-800/S are, which is why I'm more interested in the HD-800S at this time.
 
This is what I've been spending a lot of time with recently:

 

Its a Ypsilon driver in a GS style walnut cup, pretty impressive sound, great bass, HD-650 mids and T1/HD-700 highs.  It doesn't have the sound stage like the T1 or HD-800 but for jazz and pop its really good.

 

[UntilThen]

I agree the HD800/S are noticeably different. If you're a details freak, you should get the HD800. Certainly sounds clearer to me. The 'S' has a fuller midrange and more blossom bass. I've only heard them for a few hours at a meet but I did pay particular attention to these 2 headphones. I've heard both on a Woo Audio Wa2 and then heard the HD800S on Audio Gd Master Series 6.

 

[DavidA]

  I agree the HD800/S are noticeably different. If you're a details freak, you should get the HD800. Certainly sounds clearer to me. The 'S' has a fuller midrange and more blossom bass. I've only heard them for a few hours at a meet but I did pay particular attention to these 2 headphones. I've heard both on a Woo Audio Wa2 and then heard the HD800S on Audio Gd Master Series 6.

I already have the HD-800, its great if you like details but its not the most musical of headphones while the "S" is much warmer and actually sounds decent with pop and rock.  My SR-009 is just a step up from the both HD-800/S and its sound signature to me is in between the HD-800 and T1, great with well recorded/mastered classical, jazz and blues but not so great with current pop, rock, and R&B.

 

[UntilThen]

   

Its a Ypsilon driver in a GS style walnut cup, pretty impressive sound, great bass, HD-650 mids and T1/HD-700 highs.  It doesn't have the sound stage like the T1 or HD-800 but for jazz and pop its really good.

A modified Grado Interesting. That should feel light on the head.
 
Stax SR-009 is a really classy headphone. I heard it on Blue Hawaii electrostatic tube amp running EL34s. Couple of Jazz tracks and in particular the Pink Panther theme song. There was an uncanny precision and details. Sounds pristine and I did like it a lot. However as you pointed out, probably not the best for bass slam as present in abundance in pop, rock.