Cypher Labs Theorem 720 DAC: A New Portable 24/192 USB/iDevice/Android DAC & Amp
Apr 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM Post #168 of 186
Well this Theorem 720 sounds utterly amazing. it powers my DT990's great and it works with my Nexus 5!!! unlike that PHA-2 I sent back that also had a very weak headphone amp. 
 
Apr 24, 2014 at 2:09 PM Post #170 of 186
It's been fantastic. My note 10.1 2014 got kitkat update yesterday and the 720 works out of the box on it now! I just wish the USB port was on the back that's my only gripe but otherwise its amazing.
 
May 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM Post #176 of 186
http://www.cypherlabs.com/dsd-playback/
I didn't know this was possible. Anyone here have the experience?
 
May 21, 2014 at 8:09 PM Post #177 of 186
http://www.cypherlabs.com/dsd-playback/
I didn't know this was possible. Anyone here have the experience?

 
I have tried (iPad -> Onkyo -> Theorem/dB). In both DACs, although I got to play DSD, the Onkyo player defaulted back to PCM before sending the data over to the Cypherlabs devices. As opposed to the Herus where the Onkyo player was able to play DSD native. Yes I had the DoP option enabled in the Onkyo player.
 
I've not tried UAPP yet.
 
May 21, 2014 at 8:26 PM Post #178 of 186
   
I have tried (iPad -> Onkyo -> Theorem/dB). In both DACs, although I got to play DSD, the Onkyo player defaulted back to PCM before sending the data over to the Cypherlabs devices. As opposed to the Herus where the Onkyo player was able to play DSD native. Yes I had the DoP option enabled in the Onkyo player.
 
I've not tried UAPP yet.

Hi,
 
I'm contemplating getting a Sony ZX-1 and that plays DSD but converted to PCM on the fly. To get it to play DSD natively, Sony would of course prefer us to buy their DSD-capable DAC/amp, the PHA-2. If the Theorem can also do this, that would be another alternative.
 
May 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM Post #179 of 186
  Hi,
 
I'm contemplating getting a Sony ZX-1 and that plays DSD but converted to PCM on the fly. To get it to play DSD natively, Sony would of course prefer us to buy their DSD-capable DAC/amp, the PHA-2. If the Theorem can also do this, that would be another alternative.

 
Do we know for sure if the ZX1->PHA-2 plays DSD native? I know the PHA-2 does play DSD native when hooked to a PC/A+ or whatever player is used but can the ZX1 (or more precisely the default app player) actually output DSD/DoP? Or is the player only converting DSD->PCM before outputting to the PHA-2?
 
May 21, 2014 at 8:50 PM Post #180 of 186
   
Do we know for sure if the ZX1->PHA-2 plays DSD native? I know the PHA-2 does play DSD native when hooked to a PC/A+ or whatever player is used but can the ZX1 (or more precisely the default app player) actually output DSD/DoP? Or is the player only converting DSD->PCM before outputting to the PHA-2?

I'm quite sure based on what I've read so far plus there are 3 digital inputs for the PHA2 itself - High rez Walkmans, iDevices and PC/Mac.
 

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