PhilS
Headphoneus Supremus
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Well, that may have been one of the purposes, but lots of good ideas have externalities associated with them that are somewhat negative. In this instance, the forum that provides an opportunity for discussion by hobbbyists and an exchange of ideas about what sounds good and doesn't sound good, also provides a "platform" for certain folks to advance their anti-audiophile agenda. Just look at the previous posts of some of these guys. Their entire, often brief, posting history is 90% "it's all snake oil," "audiophiles are idiots," "no wire or digital media can sound different," etc., and that's the whole reason they are here. That's the ONLY thing they care about. And a new one comes around every month, acting as if they have something new to present. And they also don't give a hoot about the anti-DBT rule. They violate that with impugnity -- as the rule interferes with the advancement of their agenda.
As a consequence of all this, you find a lot of pretty cool long-time members who used to populate this sub-forum don't even bother anymore. They're just sick of it. It's a shame, but that's life.
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Absolutely, and the only way to avoid the waste of time is to stop arguing with certain folks. You have to accept the fact that some folks are here not to have fun with the hobby and share things about different listening experiences, but to advance their particular brand of dogma, start arguments, and criticize the folks that they have decided are self-deluded "audiophiles." That's how they get their jollies, as pathetic as that may seem.
So the best thing to do at some point is to let the cucarachas have the run of the house. It's hard to help yourself sometimes, and I have to admit, it's fun to debate these issues with certain folks who are able to present their point of view -- be it "pro" or "con" -- in a somewhat open-minded and non-condescending manner. There are some folks like that. But arguing with a few of these other guys is indeed a waste of time, because they are not interested in an exchange of ideas. They only want to throw pies at your face and laugh.
Be cool, my brutha.
| Originally Posted by Black Stuart /img/forum/go_quote.gif I presented my arguments based upon actual experiments that I have conducted, so have others. These are the personal opinions that we have found. I like to discuss differences with others who have contrary views to mine based upon their experience, not theories, that surely is the whole purpose of forums like these. |
Well, that may have been one of the purposes, but lots of good ideas have externalities associated with them that are somewhat negative. In this instance, the forum that provides an opportunity for discussion by hobbbyists and an exchange of ideas about what sounds good and doesn't sound good, also provides a "platform" for certain folks to advance their anti-audiophile agenda. Just look at the previous posts of some of these guys. Their entire, often brief, posting history is 90% "it's all snake oil," "audiophiles are idiots," "no wire or digital media can sound different," etc., and that's the whole reason they are here. That's the ONLY thing they care about. And a new one comes around every month, acting as if they have something new to present. And they also don't give a hoot about the anti-DBT rule. They violate that with impugnity -- as the rule interferes with the advancement of their agenda.
As a consequence of all this, you find a lot of pretty cool long-time members who used to populate this sub-forum don't even bother anymore. They're just sick of it. It's a shame, but that's life.
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| Originally Posted by Black Stuart /img/forum/go_quote.gif Too many threads end up as some kind of pathetic pseudo intellectual warfare - and what is learned from this - nothing at all - what a waste of time, the most precious commodity of all. |
Absolutely, and the only way to avoid the waste of time is to stop arguing with certain folks. You have to accept the fact that some folks are here not to have fun with the hobby and share things about different listening experiences, but to advance their particular brand of dogma, start arguments, and criticize the folks that they have decided are self-deluded "audiophiles." That's how they get their jollies, as pathetic as that may seem.
So the best thing to do at some point is to let the cucarachas have the run of the house. It's hard to help yourself sometimes, and I have to admit, it's fun to debate these issues with certain folks who are able to present their point of view -- be it "pro" or "con" -- in a somewhat open-minded and non-condescending manner. There are some folks like that. But arguing with a few of these other guys is indeed a waste of time, because they are not interested in an exchange of ideas. They only want to throw pies at your face and laugh.
Be cool, my brutha.
