[jegnyc]

I converted the 88/24 to 44/16.  In this case I converted and played them both directly from JRiver though an Oppo HA-2 to my AKG phones.  This procedure removed on additional variable. Volume levels were the same.
 
I am not going to download foobar just to do the ABX test.  
 
By the way you can do this yourself - even without an SACD player or ripper.  As long as you can convert a DSD file to another format.
 
http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/96619/Creedence_Clearwater_Revival-Willy_And_The_Poorboys-DSD_Single_Rate_28MHz64fs_Download

 

[Music Alchemist]

@RockStar2005
 
Here are some free (100% legal) hi-res downloads. You can use them for pleasure or testing or both.
 
https://hifiduino.wordpress.com/free-hi-res-music/

 

[RockStar2005]

   
Again, no, it is not a set percentage. The percentage depends on how many trials are done. If you look at that link, it's 9/10 if there are 10 trials, and 15/20 if there are 20 trials. I share links to show you explanations for why things are so that you may avoid making erroneous assumptions. For example, you said you know the difference between the two, then insisted upon a set percentage anyway, indicating that you in fact did not know the difference.

 
Ok but what's the difference between 9/10 and 90% and 15/20 and 75%?
 
I said the percentage because no one on here is gonna by a confidence level. I mean, come on man. Are you f'ing kidding me?  

 

[RockStar2005]

  I am not going to try to jury-rig some kind of ABX tesing.  I can hear a difference.  I can hear it comparing the two layers, and I can hear it when when I conver from 88/24 to 44/16.  In the end the only way to determine if you hear a difference is to listen for yourself.  

jeg, 
 
It was just a request, and that's all. You don't have to do it. 
 
Jury-rig? There's nothing about an ABX test that's rigged if you don't know what version of a song is playing. When I did them before they weren't rigged. The complete opposite actually. 
 
When I did them before (both ABX and not), I could never hear a difference, at least not consistently. So I'm always hesitant to believe it from other people is all. And I was using equipment that was similar to what you had too (AKG headphones, amp/DAC or else Sony Walkman, etc). 

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Ok but what's the difference between 9/10 and 90% and 15/20 and 75%?
 
I said the percentage because no one on here is gonna by a confidence level. I mean, come on man. Are you f'ing kidding me?  

 
I gave you the link (multiple times, despite your objections) if you want to learn about why these distinctions exist. You have to play by the rules if you want to do objective tests. For example, getting 75% correct on 7 (or 10) trials is meaningless. Again, you can't use a set percentage; the required percentage depends on the number of trials. It's not determined by percentage, but by something else, which you can read about if you want to know more.
 
To do things properly, all you need to do is consult the chart on that link. You don't need to calculate the numbers yourself.
 

  Jury-rig? There's nothing about an ABX test that's rigged if you don't know what version of a song is playing. When I did them before they weren't rigged. The complete opposite actually. 

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rigging
 
It's not what you think it is.

 

 

[RockStar2005]

Further confirmation from Steve Hoffman himself: 
 

Member Services <memberservices@stevehoffman.tv>	6:55 PM (4 hours ago)
to me

 
 
Both the CD and SACD sections are from a split feed from the original.  
Steve 



 
 
I also asked if they have any set plans to release have a Hybrid SACD release for Rage's 3rd & 4th albums. I'll post here if I hear back. Also sent Audio Fidelity the same question. 

 

[jegnyc]

 

jeg, 
 
It was just a request, and that's all. You don't have to do it. 
 
Jury-rig? There's nothing about an ABX test that's rigged if you don't know what version of a song is playing. When I did them before they weren't rigged. The complete opposite actually. 
 
When I did them before (both ABX and not), I could never hear a difference, at least not consistently. So I'm always hesitant to believe it from other people is all. And I was using equipment that was similar to what you had too (AKG headphones, amp/DAC or else Sony Walkman, etc). 

My ears and impressions should not be the basis for your decision.
 
See also http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-note-about-abx-dbt-blind-testing-and-the-sh-forums.278682/
 
And that's my last word on the topic.

 

[RockStar2005]

Audio Fidelity's response to the question of if they will release the 3rd and 4th Rage albums in Hybrid SACD as well..............................................
 

Marshall Blonstein	10:42 AM (12 hours ago)
to me

 
Hi,
 
It depends on sales of Evil Empire.  If our expectations are met we will continue releasing more Rage Against the Machine titles.
 
Marshall Blonstein - President
Audio Fidelity-Morada Music
79 E. Daily Dr. #507 
Camarillo, CA  93010
Phone:  (805) 445-6464
Fax:      (805) 445-6455
mb@audiofidelity.net
www.audiofidelity.net

 

[RockStar2005]

  My ears and impressions should not be the basis for your decision.
 
See also http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-note-about-abx-dbt-blind-testing-and-the-sh-forums.278682/
 
And that's my last word on the topic.

 
They aren't. But whether or not I agree with someone doesn't mean I don't want to hear their opinion. 
 
And I'm pretty sure this convo never got anywhere NEAR that bad. lol 
 
Anyway, I'll prob just grab the CD layer off the SACD. 

 

[alexdemaet]

Maybe it is possible to mount a sacd iso image on a pc with Imgburn?

 

[gimmeheadroom]

No it is not. You cannot read an SACD without special hardware.