[Music Alchemist]

No you can't . What tube amps have you owned/heard to make this definitive statement? Please link your EQ settings that make your Pyle amp sound like a Bottlehead Crack with 650......

 
Yes, you can. This isn't about me; it's about science.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/657769/can-tube-sound-be-replicated-via-plugins
http://www.head-fi.org/t/763666/why-tubes-but-no-equalization
http://www.head-fi.org/t/606371/eq-vs-tube-rolling

 

[Fearless1]

not worth it... Sorry I said anything, you just keep reading and parroting, I will go and listen to my 650/ Fosgate Signature without the degradation of Sound caused by equalizers or plug-ins. I just feel bad for some of these newer folks to the forums who see your post count and actually attribute that to experienced based knowledge .

 

[Music Alchemist]

What tube amps have you heard?

 
If you are interested in learning about the topic, I linked to threads about it.
 
It is proven and not even debatable, just like the other scientific data I have shared.
 
Now stop trolling me! This is your last post I will ever reply to.

 

[Fearless1]

If you are interested in learning about the topic, I linked to threads about it.

It is proven and not even debatable, just like the other scientific data I have shared.

Now stop trolling me! This is your last post I will ever reply to.

How am I trolling you? Because I don't agree with you? You don't always have to play the victim on here. Btw you have never heard a tube amp, have you?

 

[seanwee]

not worth it... Sorry I said anything, you just keep reading and parroting, I will go and listen to my 650/ Fosgate Signature without the degradation of Sound caused by equalizers or plug-ins. I just feel bad for some of these newer folks to the forums who see your post count and actually attribute that to useful knowledge .

Unfortunately I will have to agree. SQ degrades considerably with EQ/plugins IMHO (I'm looking at you Samsung stock player)

Then again, you have no other choice but to use plugins and DSPs to get "tube" sound on the go unless you intend to get a portable tube amp.

Pros and cons .

Cheers.

 

[Fearless1]

Unfortunately I will have to agree. SQ degrades considerably with EQ/plugins IMHO (I'm looking at you Samsung stock player)

Then again, you have no other choice but to use plugins and DSPs to get "tube" sound on the go unless you intend to get a portable tube amp.

Pros and cons .

Cheers.

Exactly.

Folks make it seem like every tube amp sounds the same as well. I have one that is actually as transparent as any of my SS amps including the O2.

 

[Music Alchemist]

Unfortunately I will have to agree. SQ degrades considerably with EQ/plugins IMHO (I'm looking at you Samsung stock player)

Then again, you have no other choice but to use plugins and DSPs to get "tube" sound on the go unless you intend to get a portable tube amp.

Pros and cons .

Cheers.

 
I suggest reading through the threads I linked to above, as well as these ones:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/413900/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial
http://www.head-fi.org/t/587703/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial-part-2
http://www.head-fi.org/t/615417/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-advanced-tutorial-in-progress
 
Tubes that change the sound are doing far more to degrade the signal than a simple parametric equalizer. If you used an EQ in the past that made it sound worse, it was probably either a bad EQ program or bad settings. Done properly, EQ can work wonders, and in fact, virtually every headphone requires EQ to get a frequency response as close to neutral as possible. If you want to change the frequency response, create (potentially pleasant) distortion, and so on, there are free software programs that do these things.

 

[seanwee]

I suggest reading through the threads I linked to above, as well as these ones:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/413900/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial
http://www.head-fi.org/t/587703/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial-part-2
http://www.head-fi.org/t/615417/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-advanced-tutorial-in-progress

Tubes that change the sound are doing far more to degrade the signal than a simple parametric equalizer. If you used an EQ in the past that made it sound worse, it was probably either a bad EQ program or bad settings. Done properly, EQ can work wonders, and in fact, virtually every headphone requires EQ to get a frequency response as close to neutral as possible. If you want to change the frequency response, create (potentially pleasant) distortion, and so on, there are free software programs that do these things.

I've read through these and used them to equalize my UE400 s and I used the closest EQ I could on the X1.( read profile)

Have you seen the stock Samsung player? It has 3 reverb ,and a tube DSPs. The reverb is quite OK actually but the tube DSP just plain sucks.

 

[seanwee]

Someone also said To me once that a certain JVC wood earphone has a tubey sound .he used a fancy term to describe it . Err , I think he said euphonic?

 

[Music Alchemist]

I've read through these and used them to equalize my UE400 s and I used the closest EQ I could on the X1.( read profile)

Have you seen the stock Samsung player? It has 3 reverb ,and a tube DSPs. The reverb is quite OK actually but the tube DSP just plain sucks.

 
No. But personally, here's my perspective: I don't want higher distortion; I want lower distortion. I don't want a colored frequency response; I want a neutral frequency response. (Most of the time, at least) And so on. (Some tubes do have a neutral frequency response and low distortion, of course.) As you hopefully know, the only way to get the most accurate sound from any headphone or speaker is with EQ. It's not easy. And if you want euphonic tubey colorations without actually using tubes, it's also not easy to emulate specific tubes (and tube amps) with software, but it can be done. It's just manipulation of a few variables, after all. That's why I suggested reading those threads.

 

[seanwee]

No. But personally, here's my perspective: I don't want higher distortion; I want lower distortion. I don't want a colored frequency response; I want a neutral frequency response. (Most of the time, at least) And so on. (Some tubes do have a neutral frequency response and low distortion, of course.) As you hopefully know, the only way to get the most accurate sound from any headphone or speaker is with EQ. It's not easy. And if you want euphonic tubey colorations without actually using tubes, it's also not easy to emulate specific tubes (and tube amps) with software, but it can be done. It's just manipulation of a few variables, after all. That's why I suggested reading those threads.

U just stated the worst part of EQing , it wastes a huge amount of time to get it right. It took me around 3 hours without much success. Might be becuz I don't have the experience.

So I only EQ as a supplement. I don't really use it to "perfect" any equipment I use.
I find it both easier and more effective to just buy what you need.

Long story short, EQ is only for those with dedication (and lots of time?)

 

[Fearless1]

U just stated the worst part of EQing , it wastes a huge amount of time to get it right. It took me around 3 hours without much success. Might be becuz I don't have the experience.

So I only EQ as a supplement. I don't really use it to "perfect" any equipment I use.
I find it both easier and more effective to just buy what you need.

Long story short, EQ is only for those with dedication (and lots of time?)

This.

 

[seanwee]

This.

lol

 

[Music Alchemist]

U just stated the worst part of EQing , it wastes a huge amount of time to get it right. It took me around 3 hours without much success. Might be becuz I don't have the experience.

So I only EQ as a supplement. I don't really use it to "perfect" any equipment I use.
I find it both easier and more effective to just buy what you need.

Long story short, EQ is only for those with dedication (and lots of time?)

 
Yes, it requires time and dedication. Buying something that automatically colors the sound (like some tubes / tube amps) can be easier for many people, but then you're stuck with that one "EQ/distortion setting" unless you start tube rolling, which is even more expensive. It's definitely not more effective, because it severely limits your options. Software, on the other hand, gives you limitless possibilities, without having to pay a cent. You just have to put in the effort to learn and implement it all.

 

[Fearless1]

Too bad none of this "scientific" proof is true or I could have saved a lot of money.

People with inferior gear tend to preach EQ and Plug-ins.