24/192 DAC with switchable (on/off) upsampling?
Sep 28, 2009 at 12:25 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

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It seems that most of the current 24/192-capable upsampling DACs force the signal to 192, or 96 at minimum.
Are there any, preferably (but not limited to) current production, that allow the user to toggle upsampling completely off or on?
 
Sep 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM Post #2 of 13
The Northstar M192 MK1 comes to mind. Some thoughts about the reason for your enquiry might be worth putting forward, as I have other suggestions depending on your reasons.
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Sep 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM Post #3 of 13
For the most part, I find upsampled Redbook to be too "bright" or "edgy". I'd prefer a DAC that can handle a 24/192 PCM signal if fed it, but to leave a 16/44.1 signal alone. Most seem to force upsampling to 96 or 192. I'd like the option.
 
Sep 28, 2009 at 7:04 PM Post #6 of 13
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My current dac the Xindak DAC-8 does as well.


Does the Xindak have an "off" option, or simply a choice between 24/96 & 24/192? I like the tubed analog stage.

Thanks for the Stello reco's everyone. I like AKM chipsets. The DA220 is really nice, but I don't need balanced. Is the DA100 the only sub-$1k DAC to offer this option?
 
Sep 28, 2009 at 7:19 PM Post #7 of 13
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Does the Xindak have an "off" option, or simply a choice betwee, 24/96 & 24/192? I like the tubed analog stage.


Just, the option between the two, no off. The tube section is very good as well as the single ended SS. The balanced outputs don't sound as good as the SE.
 
Sep 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM Post #8 of 13
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Does the Xindak have an "off" option, or simply a choice between 24/96 & 24/192? I like the tubed analog stage.

Thanks for the Stello reco's everyone. I like AKM chipsets. The DA220 is really nice, but I don't need balanced. Is the DA100 the only sub-$1k DAC to offer this option?



Sub $1k and has this option

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Sep 29, 2009 at 4:52 PM Post #9 of 13
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It seems that most of the current 24/192-capable upsampling DACs force the signal to 192, or 96 at minimum.
Are there any, preferably (but not limited to) current production, that allow the user to toggle upsampling completely off or on?



I guess Bryston DAC allows that (from the manual):

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UP-SAMPLE: Engages up-sampling such that incoming sample rates of 32K, 48K or 96K sps will be up-sampled to 192K (LEDs ~ see above ~ light green), and 44.1K and 88.2K sps will be up-sampled to 176.4K (LEDs light amber) to allow for optimal DAC performance.


 
Sep 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM Post #10 of 13
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For the most part, I find upsampled Redbook to be too "bright" or "edgy". I'd prefer a DAC that can handle a 24/192 PCM signal if fed it, but to leave a 16/44.1 signal alone. Most seem to force upsampling to 96 or 192. I'd like the option.


In that case, you don't need an upsampling DAC at all, assuming you have Hi-res files.
 
Sep 29, 2009 at 6:20 PM Post #11 of 13
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In that case, you don't need an upsampling DAC at all, assuming you have Hi-res files.


What 24/192 DAC's don't also upsample?
 
Sep 30, 2009 at 12:12 AM Post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by jpelg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
For the most part, I find upsampled Redbook to be too "bright" or "edgy". I'd prefer a DAC that can handle a 24/192 PCM signal if fed it, but to leave a 16/44.1 signal alone. Most seem to force upsampling to 96 or 192. I'd like the option.


This sounds (ha!) weird to me, as, if anything, I've noticed the opposite, with the limited amount of DACs that I've used with up-sampling. I would like to know more specifics, as I'm sure something else is going on in the DACs you've tried that were distorting the sound. I've noticed many DACs suffer badly from what you describe listening to music with pianos and violins especially.

However, the only entire "brand" I know that has no upsampling at all across their DAC range and none of what you describe is Audio-gd. However, their PCM1704UK DACs only do 24/96, because that's the limit of the DA chip itself.
 

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