[CoiL]

New one from AK store
MaGaosi Hybrid In Ear Earphone 2BA with 1DD HIFI Bass Metal In Ear Headset
Look what I found on AliExpress
http://s.aliexpress.com/UjmeYn6r

Wow, didn`t expect that! They look really nice (black)! 
But I`m going to wait some serious impressions and comparison on those (especially vs. **** 4in1) before jumping on them.

 

[kimD]

Wow, didn`t expect that! They look really nice (black)! 
But I`m going to wait some serious impressions and comparison on those (especially vs. **** 4in1) before jumping on them.

OMG.
I will fully support you
But not related to money LOL

 

[VinceHill24]

I saw the Magaosi K1 2BA+1DD hybrid on Taobao selling at just 499RMB, such a competitive pricing. Just some info, according to the seller they're using TWFK-30017 BA this time unlike the HLSX time which they use AFX BA. The FR given was using the Grey filter (the middle/neutral 1). I'm very much interested though hope to hear some impressions.

 

[Podster]

   
Would you place them in the same tier in the budget realm?

No, sound and cost wise I put the 4in1 a tier above the KZ but yes they are both still budget iem's and well worth their price. The ones I question are the more expensive multi driver Chinese customs and sometimes copies. Like the Japanese who have been copying other manufacturers for years and mind you usually perfecting on others designs the Chinese have not (once again this is just my opinion and how I see it) perfected anything like Shure copies, some of these Chinese designers are one maybe two or three guys and do not have the R&D or your larger manufacturers and who knows if they will even be here tomorrow but they sure know how to copy and look how fast models change and they'll say we can build this or that but unlike Shure, FiiO and even the likes of KZ will they be here tomorrow?
 
Building iem's is not rocket science but to make a great long lasting product much more has to go into the build than just having a few tools to make a shell and stuff it with drivers, I'm just saying and even though I feel this way I still by ZST's and Rose iem's like everyone else but IMHO most of these guys have a long way to go before they are UE, Shure or Sony

I have a blast in budget because I know if to me it's a dud I've not broken the bank, not so sure I can say that once I get over $150

 
Now I'm ready for the recoil from Vap "Fremer", Audio "Atkinson" and Kim "Dudley"

 

[trumpethead]

Does anyone have both the KZ ZS3 and the 4in1's? How do they compare, especially in soundstage? 

I have both and imo soundstage is fairly close giving a slight edge to the 4 in 1. Where the difference comes in is in the resolution and the timbre where the 4 in 1 is definitely a step up, coming in second only to my FX850. It's really amazing how good they are considering the price. The ZS3 are very good also with excellent detail and clarity with the only issue for me being the fit. All things considered you really can't go wrong with either one especially when you factor in the cost... imo....

 

[Ewen]

I saw the Magaosi K1 2BA+1DD hybrid on Taobao selling at just 499RMB, such a competitive pricing. Just some info, according to the seller they're using TWFK-30017 BA this time unlike the HLSX time which they use AFX BA. The FR given was using the Grey filter (the middle/neutral 1). I'm very much interested though hope to hear some impressions.

Nice.
Magaosi gained quite some popularity here with their previous products and if these are using the 30017, with a little boost at 1kHz we may have a great iem if we can get it around $80.
On my wishlist.

 

[Podster]

  Nice.
Magaosi gained quite some popularity here with their previous products and if these are using the 30017, with a little boost at 1kHz we may have a great iem if we can get it around $80.
On my wishlist.

For someone with so few post out here Ewen I'm always impressed with your knowledge, I should strive to have fewer post with more meaning like yours

 

 

[trumpethead]

Not very happy with Jim/HCK on Aliexpress right now. Still waiting for two orders from early September one for a second 4 in 1 and the other for ZST that he told me had shipped two weeks ago and is now telling me the orders are sitting in his warehouse due to stock issues...never any issues with them before and I have purchased a lot from then. Have asked for a cancel and refund on both orders, We'll see how that goes. Starting to get some real trust issues with these Ali sellers especially after the recent issue with the"seller who cannot be named" Hopefully Jim/HCK will restore my faith.

 

[Ewen]

 
For someone with so few post out here Ewen I'm always impressed with your knowledge, I should strive to have fewer post with more meaning like yours

 

Knowledge that's a big word ( you could also say that for VinceHill24 who got the info ).
I don't have time to chat, so I think that my message counter will stay low.
Anyway, audio has been a passion since I was a teenager, so I've had time to learn a few things

.

 

[Vidal]

My 4in1 stock is also waiting in China - Jim said that it's coming by road when I asked. I thought most of his stuff came by air previously. It's bloody frustrating as I know there's plenty of interest in these earphones.
 
I heard a rumour that China post aren't shipping lithium battery kit or anything magnetic via air, nothing confirmed.
 
Incidentally I've had no delays with any stuff coming via Aliexpress shipping. 

 

[brokentofu]

How does the ZST compare to the ZS3? My only other experience with IEMs is the ATE and ZS1.

 

[Podster]

How does the ZST compare to the ZS3? My only other experience with IEMs is the ATE and ZS1.

Going to have to wait until the Slow Boat gets here with my ZST to tell you

 

[mebaali]

Not very happy with Jim/HCK on Aliexpress right now. Still waiting for two orders from early September one for a second 4 in 1 and the other for ZST that he told me had shipped two weeks ago and is now telling me the orders are sitting in his warehouse due to stock issues...never any issues with them before and I have purchased a lot from then. Have asked for a cancel and refund on both orders, We'll see how that goes. Starting to get some real trust issues with these Ali sellers especially after the recent issue with the"seller who cannot be named" Hopefully Jim/HCK will restore my faith.

Had same experience with that seller. Have sent repeated messages daily, querying on shipping of my order (for which he gave excuses one after the other as reply). On the 10th day (Order placed on Sept 4th) the seller finally admitted of having no stock of **** 4in1 hence the delay. I have had my order cancelled, immediately.
 
Went with AK store, they shipped **** 4in1 within 2 days of my order placement and now, it has already left Shenzhen airport.

 

[Roen]

No, sound and cost wise I put the 4in1 a tier above the KZ but yes they are both still budget iem's and well worth their price. The ones I question are the more expensive multi driver Chinese customs and sometimes copies. Like the Japanese who have been copying other manufacturers for years and mind you usually perfecting on others designs the Chinese have not (once again this is just my opinion and how I see it) perfected anything like Shure copies, some of these Chinese designers are one maybe two or three guys and do not have the R&D or your larger manufacturers and who knows if they will even be here tomorrow but they sure know how to copy and look how fast models change and they'll say we can build this or that but unlike Shure, FiiO and even the likes of KZ will they be here tomorrow?

Building iem's is not rocket science but to make a great long lasting product much more has to go into the build than just having a few tools to make a shell and stuff it with drivers, I'm just saying and even though I feel this way I still by ZST's and Rose iem's like everyone else but IMHO most of these guys have a long way to go before they are UE, Shure or Sony:rolleyes: I have a blast in budget because I know if to me it's a dud I've not broken the bank, not so sure I can say that once I get over $150:blink:

Now I'm ready for the recoil from Vap "Fremer", Audio "Atkinson" and Kim "Dudley":eek:

What are the Shure copies for the 535 and 846?

 

[Podster]

What are the Shure copies for the 535 and 846?

I'm pretty much convinced any of the Chinese models are Shure copies. I know I've seen SE215's, 846's and these:
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-YHC-S600-bass-earphone-sports-headphones-dynamic-Headset-with-mic-for-iPhone-xiaomi-samsung-smartphones/32717330843.html?spm=2114.13010208.99999999.330.SWB2cu Which strangely resemble the Shure E2's!
 
I'm thinking you can find any Shure shell rebuilt buy some Chinese builder

 
Question is do they perform like the Shures