[JazzVinyl]

You can hear it anytime you like but you can never unhear it, so says Elise. :rolleyes:

A very compelling Stones song is: "Moonlight Mile" off the Sticky Fingers album.

 

[JazzVinyl]

For a real sonic treat...

Check out "Lucille Has Messed My Mind Up" - on Frank Zappa's "Joe's Garage" album.

 

[UntilThen]

So many Tung Sol 5998 on eBay suddenly.

 

[UntilThen]

As I sat listening and contemplating how I'll miss the warm, lushness and bass impact my Darkvoice 336se has given me, I'm preparing myself mentally for what Elise will bring to me. I've been picking key words from everyone's review and I get a general consensus that Elise is more an elite pugilist adapt in the art of nailing an entire symphony than Hulk the super brawler who will send earthquake undertones through your entire body.
 
I'm not sure which I will like more.

 

[nephilim]

I haven't heard the DV but recently I felt I had to travel back in time when I used to be a metal-head and listened to Fear Factory's Genexus album on the Elise w/ECC31 & 5998 via the HD800. While the cans are by sure not bass heavy I was amazed how well the low spectrum is covered. Imho with that combination there is noting to be missed.
 
I just bought a spare pair of 5998... just in case

 

[UntilThen]

Lol Nep don't buy the entire 5998 stock. Well it's good to know your HD800 with those tubes can metal-head it.

 
Guess what? Lukasz replied. Said will update me later this week regarding shipping date.
 
Ummm he may not be able to get me an Australian power cable. Can I use a PC power cable (lol el cheapo) or do I need a specialised audio power cable.
 
Something like this?
 

 

[nephilim]

According to my limited experience the power cord is further down on the list of recommended upgrades.

 

[UntilThen]

Well I do need one power cable or else I won't be able to start up Elise.
 
I think this is as much as I want to pay for AUD$45
 

 

[JazzVinyl]

Well I do need one power cable or else I won't be able to start up Elise.

Congrats on the word that it will ship soon

 

[MIKELAP]

  I haven't heard the DV but recently I felt I had to travel back in time when I used to be a metal-head and listened to Fear Factory's Genexus album on the Elise w/ECC31 & 5998 via the HD800. While the cans are by sure not bass heavy I was amazed how well the low spectrum is covered. Imho with that combination there is noting to be missed.
 
I just bought a spare pair of 5998... just in case

Couldnt agree more just listen to the first few seconds of the song Reflektor by Arcade Fire  incredible low end                              

 

[JazzVinyl]

For those interested in running 12v drivers in the Elise:

Here is a device to step up 6v dc to 12v dc (could go inside Elise, and a fuse, diode and bypass switch):

http://www.prodctodc.com/5w-adjustable-boost-converter-dc-36v-to-532v-power-converterpower-adapterdriver-module-dual-output-power-supply-p-69.html

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[MIKELAP]

  Lol Nep don't buy the entire 5998 stock. Well it's good to know your HD800 with those tubes can metal-head it.

 
Guess what? Lukasz replied. Said will update me later this week regarding shipping date.
 
Ummm he may not be able to get me an Australian power cable. Can I use a PC power cable (lol el cheapo) or do I need a specialised audio power cable.
 
Something like this?
 

That's what i use and i have a DH LAB AC cable that I received  as part of a Burson Conductor package no difference to me 

 

[hypnos1]

  Well I do need one power cable or else I won't be able to start up Elise.
 
I think this is as much as I want to pay for AUD$45
 

 
Hi UT...probably all depends on what sort of EMI/RFI  you have flying about - and thus whether you're lucky, or cursed, lol!!

(I do hope it's the former...).

 

[MIKELAP]

Am i imagining this or do you guys from across the pond seem to have more problems with EMI/RFI   than in North America ?

 

[hypnos1]

Well guys, it would appear it's time I tried to give a clearer, more 'objective' overview of my and JV's experience with the rather unconventional mix of driver tubes - viz ECC31/FDD20 - for those who may be interested in going off mainstream.
 
It is, of course, self-evident that in the main, mixing of non-identical tubes is fraught with possible problems and probably not even worth bothering with. However, an important lesson I learned from my time over at the Little Dot thread (and with the Elise!) was that sometimes it can pay dividends to experiment, even in the face of friendly scepticism - the sort I had hoped would migrate over to things Elise.
Despite approaching such a project with a healthy doubt, the lengthy burn-in necessary for our NOS tubes has shown a very clear similarity between them...much more so even than often between other tubes of the same type. And has been tested over a wide range of genres - no overnight quickies here, lol!
At first it appears they may not merge properly, but gradually any disparities do indeed fade and a synergy develops that is actually most unexpected...and I use the word advisedly here - "expectation" has been removed from the equation as much as possible, as has wishful thinking.
 
And so we have both come to this conclusion through careful, prolonged scrutiny...neither of us has only just started out in this area. And most importantly...through actual personal trial and assessment, not supposition. This, of course, can be the only way to gain any kind of meaningful impression as to what is being delivered by the tubes...and everything else! 
 
Which does actually bring me to the rather tricky subject of hearing. I suspect there are in fact very few (lucky) people with precisely the same range of frequency response in both ears, let alone volume levels. This will, naturally, impact upon the balance of sound we experience - our entire perception in fact. And must therefore differ from one person to the next...for better or worse! Which is just one reason why music appreciation especially is such a personal experience, of course.
 
And then there's the question of just how well balanced the drivers and powers are in toto!
 
In other words, there are a good many things that will influence anyone's experience in such an undertaking...and requires an open, unprejudiced mind; a willingness to try things new and/or unconventional...plus the patience not to judge by initial impressions, but give a fair trial. Only from such personal involvement and experience can a truly valid opinion be given.
 
And so, folks, I look forward to the honest findings of others prepared to fly in the face of convention, and take risks in the pursuit of "that extra mile"...which is also part of the fun to be had in this (mad?!) hobby of ours. Not everything suits everyone, but if at least a few discover something unexpected that they can enjoy/appreciate, then the quest must surely be worthwhile?...
 
So HAPPY LISTENING!

 
ps. Neither I nor JV will be in the slightest upset if your findings don't exactly match our own...given fair trial, lol!!