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Haha ya ya wink.gif

Got me curious though. I tried feeding it line out without amp. Theres actually less hiss and the volume is softer... That does seem unusual
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Love At First Ring: Two Weeks Journey With a Telephone Receiver, Aurisonics ASG 2.

 

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          =      ASG 2:  :blink:        

 

                                             

           

Let me start this write-up with some hyperbole, because these ASG 2s are the most refined sounding set of IEMs I have heard to date.

 

Here is my illustrious in-ears gear history: :ksc75smile:

 

IEMs: MEElectronics M9< TDK MT-300 < Tt isurus < monoprice iem< Brainwavz beta v2 < JVC HA-FX101< Sennheiser CX250< Apple earpods< JVC HA-FX40 < RHA MA-350 = Philips SHE5105< JVC HA-FX3X< Corecool V2 = ATH CKS77X< JVC HA-FXD70< Phillips SHE9700< Sony MH1C < ATH CKN70< VSonic VC02 = JVC HA-FXD80 < VSonic VSD1 = Sony XB90EX = Zero Audio Basso < JVC FXZ200 < Sony XBA3 < VSonic GR07 BE ~ VSonic VSD1 LE (Limited Edition) = ATH CKS1000 <~ KEF M200

 

 All listening was done with the Ortofon clear tips at this point for a very good reason as you'll later find out. 

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The sparkly lush mids was what jumped out at me when I listened to these ASG 2s for the first time. There is just this sparkle to their presentation which makes everything sound so refined, though I am not 100 percent certain that this can be entirely attributed to the lushness/ forwardness of their mid range but the sparkliness of the sound signature is one of the traits I love about these ASG 2s. From personal experience the only IEM that also have such sparkly lush mids was the JVC FXD 70s, but those Carbon Nanotube micro driver IEMs lacked the spaciousness and stage these ASG 2 has. Also those JVC FXD 70s were really fatiguing due to their overly lush and forward mids along with a really bright, harsh and sibilant treble. So despite their similarities in the mids, these ASG 2s won't "sparkle your ears out like" a lot of the Carbon Nanotube IEMs because they are never bright, harsh or sibilant, hence combined with a much larger soundstage makes them much more spacious and 3D sounding than the more closed in presentation JVC FXD 70s. These ASG 2s also has a very natural and realistic timbre compared to the more artificial, almost metallic sound of the JVC FXD 70s. This is probably due to the Balanced Armature and Dynamic hybrid driver design of the ASG 2s which helps to negate the more artificial sound signature/ metallic treble that many BA IEMs seems to be affected by such as Sony's XBA 3s. As I have stated the lush sparkly mids is the high light of these ASG 2s but the treble has pretty decent quality and quantity as well. Highs seems to be there without being overly extended nor overly recessed, so I would say they are just present. Therefore, these ASG 2 can be listened at pretty high volumes for prolonged sessions and one would have zero problems due to their non-fatiguing nature.

 

The bass of these ASG 2s is mostly focused on the mid bass regions, but sub bass quality and extension is satisfactory though it would have been better if the mid to sub bass ratio was more balanced. I was tempted to try the bass ports out but never bothered because at their current setting the bass quantity/quality was perfect for me so I can not imagine these ASG 2s with even more bass added to their overall presentation. Many people seem to take issue if there is a mid bass hump in the sonic spectrum, but for me these ASG 2s have pretty good quality as well as quantity even though it is mid-bass centric. In fact their mid bass have fantastic slam and can sound pretty explosive when called for because it is big, fast and hard hitting which gives a good sense of weight, depth as well as texture to the musical notes without being overly powerful, thick or sounding congested. They are by no means "muddy" sounding as some have suggested. These ASG 2s have too much sparkle, instrument separation/ layering, clarity, transparency, micro details, lushness in the mids to be ever considered as "muddy." All these wonderful attributes are then enveloped by very 3D, out of your head presentation but yet has a intimacy to their sound as well because it is not overly wide or deep that the music gets lost within it. Sure they have a mid bass hump but it is a mid bass emphasis done right which hardly bleeds into the rest of the sonic spectrum.

 

So far these ASG 2s seem to have pretty good bass and amazing mids but what about the treble???

 

Below is the reason why I have not yet mentioned the treble of these ASG 2s....... :ph34r:

 

Impressions with single flange stock black tips:

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For a total of half a week, all my listening sessions were done with the aftermarket Ortofon clear tips, so I decided to tip roll these back to their stock single flange medium tips to see how they fare. Lo and behold, I then realized what all the controversy was all about regarding these ASG 2s. Not only did the generic stock tips felt and looked cheap, they seem to make these ASG 2s sound more dull and flat as well. There was not only an immediate and noticeable decrease in the sparkliness of the presentation but clarity as well. It is akin to a can of opened soda that has lost all its fizz due to sitting out for too long. What I also noticed besides the overall down grade in the refinement was that the stock tips were extremely wide in bore. The stock tips opening as you can see in the picture above fits around the very edges of the clear plastic nozzle, which is already extremely wide in itself. I came to the conclusion that the ultra wide bore of the stock tips when compared to the less wide Ortofon clear tips, degraded the sound of these ASG 2s due to the sound becoming more diffused, therefore a lot of the "refined" qualities of these ASG 2s as mentioned in the previous paragraphs are muted.

 

The more narrow bore of the Ortofon clear tips seems to create a tighter more cohesive sound which brings forth better clarity, transparency, more sparkle and lushness. For me the stock tips does not do justice to these ASG 2s whatsoever because it makes them sound a bit dead, while the Ortofon clear tips gives them a more lively sound. This decrease in the overall refinement of their sound then made me concentrate on the treble of these ASG 2s much more, or should I say the lack of treble. Those infamous graphs indeed seem to have some validity in that these ASG 2s do in fact have a rolled off treble that lacks both extension and sparkle. I would not say these have "no treble" per se but it is merely just present without any offensiveness nor flavor. So yes their treble quality and quantity is pretty lackluster and bland, but if one is not too picky regarding this aspect of the sound many would not take too much issue with it since this can be a positive attribute due to its non-fatiguing nature, especially when used for long stage monitoring sessions at high volumes in order to block off ambient noises.

 

Such "honky" sonic characteristics as some has described made me realize why these ASG 2s are ideal for stage monitoring. Their rolled off polite/ non-fatiguing treble, big mid bass slam/impact without much sub bass extension, but is outfitted with amazingly lush, forward sparkly mids makes it easier to hear instrumental cues and bass kicks during noisy stage performances. This is my best guess because I have no such personal experience nor expertise, but I would imagine mids and mid bass impact as more prioritized for stage use, hence the sound of these ASG 2s are tuned that way. Not only this but these ASG 2s also offer pretty good passive isolation as well, meaning that when worn without music on, the stock tips blocks off just enough so you won't hear all the background noise, yet when someone is talking to you, you can still hear pretty clearly without taking the IEMs off. So I would say they are average in terms of passive isolation, But when the music is on you can't hear anything around you even in pretty noisy environments. I have worn these out and about in really windy conditions in the city where there are lots of cars, buses and people around and was in complete audio nirvana due to how well they isolated with the music on, and when I needed to talk to people I was able to simply pause my music without ever taking them off.

 

Despite these positives, there are many negative ergonomic issues with these ASG 2s as well. Their form factor is somewhat bulky, hence it's not ideal and can be problematic if one plans to use them while laying down, etc.  Despite their snug fit, my ears got a bit sore from just wearing them for 30 minutes or so due to their size and shape. If I didn't touch them I don't really feel the pain but once I touch the IEMs or take them off the mild soreness is immediately noticeable. They are also meant to be worn over-ears only so that might be a plus or negative depending on your personal preferences and needs, but even though I wear glasses, they are pretty comfortable for me. The cable feels a bit flimsy and not the best built for a $600+ unit but it seems study enough. With the music off there is noticeable, albeit slight microphonics (cord noise) when rubbed against my shirt collars, but when it's on you will not notice much if any cable noise. The $100 custom matte paint finish didn't really have a premium nor durable feel to it, so I was extremely careful while handling them in order to not scratch the paint job. The weight of the IEM is extremely light and despite that might be great thing comfort wise, as a whole these ASG 2s just didn't convey a sense that it is a premium high quality product.

 

Overall, these ASG 2s is still one of the most refined sounding IEMs I have heard to date, but only with those Ortofon clear tips and it's a shame that great tips like those are not made stock from the get-go. So yes, a set of quality tips DOES in fact affect the sonic presentation and quality that much for me despite such "subtle" changes might not be always measurable. I was able to get a great seal with both set of tips and the sonic changes when accounted for can really make or break the sense of enjoyment for these IEMs. I can now understand why owners of these ASG 2s would spend an extra $15 for just those Ortofon clear tips alone. Since we are on the topic of monetary worth and value, the overall packaging of these ASG 2s is rather spartan in terms of looks, cable, and even the stock tips selection.  If I have to put a monetary value on the sonics of these ASG 2s alone, these sound like a set of $300 IEM to me tops, especially with their stock tips. But with the Ortofon clear tips I can see myself paying $350 for the overall package. As someone very eloquently and aptly puts it "diminishing returns is a bitch" because The Law of Diminishing Returns is very real in the case of these ASG 2s due to many universal IEMs, such as the VSonic GR07 BEs, ATH CKS1000s, KEF M200s and even the cheapo VSonic VSD1 LE (Limited Edition) which punches way higher than their price to performance ratios can more than hang/ compete with these ASG 2s sonically especially in the sub bass and treble regions. Despite the GR07 BE bests it in the department of lushness and texture, sub bass extension and depth goes to the ATH CKS1000s, smoothness and balance goes to the KEF M200s while naturalness and realism goes to the VSD1 LEs, nevertheless I would have to honestly say that these ASG 2s has got a leg up on the overall refinement due to their unique sound signature and presentation which warrants their higher price tag. But for me this price tag is only $100 more worth in refinement when compared to all the other price to performance heavy hitters I have just mentioned.

 

TO BE CONTINUED...................


Edited by sfwalcer - 1/20/14 at 6:27pm
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Where can you get the ASG2 for $350?
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Originally Posted by xaddictionx View Post

Where can you get the ASG2 for $350?

Don't think you can.  He was stating his perceived value based on sound and build, I believe.

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Thread Starter 

Good stuff, troll boss! I've added your impressions to the OP.

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Originally Posted by xaddictionx View Post

Where can you get the ASG2 for $350?

You can get the poor mans version for around $70, even mo' better. hoho :tongue_smile:

 

DEAD SERIOUS!!! :ph34r:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/663709/vsonic-vsd1-vsd1s-reviews-impression-thread/1065#post_9937914

 

Oh btw i have also sent my VSonic VSD1 LEs along with Unity's ASG 2/ GR07 BEs for the last leg of the tour. Should be interesting......

 

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Originally Posted by fiascogarcia View Post
 

Don't think you can.  He was stating his perceived value based on sound and build, I believe.

^ yeppp exactly my point. Sonically they are worth about $300 in value to me was what i was saying.

 

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i agree with everything you said   but the box alone is atleast fifty dollars worth and comparatively speaking with others i have owned  i would say atleast seven hundred for sound and build q though i am finding they have to be compatible with the mastering on the track or u got mess around with eq to improve wich kinda sux . well mastered slow and textured recording with mids up  front and female vocals absolutly cream with no eqing ness , fact :eek:

 

ps im still on standard tips and playing through a phone WANT ortofon tips ASAP lol

^ yeppp x2 you need to get on those Ortofon tips ASAP!!!

 

 

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Good stuff, troll boss! I've added your impressions to the OP.

Thanks for the kind words ekey boi, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of my tom trollery. Mo' to come. :popcorn:

 

Soon..................... oh that reminds me i got some edits to do. : P


Edited by sfwalcer - 12/14/13 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

You can get the poor mans version for around $70, even mo' better. hoho tongue_smile.gif

DEAD SERIOUS!!! ph34r.gif

http://www.head-fi.org/t/663709/vsonic-vsd1-vsd1s-reviews-impression-thread/1065#post_9937914

Oh btw i have also sent my VSonic VSD1 LEs along with Unity's ASG 2/ GR07 BEs for the last leg of the tour. Should be interesting......

^ yeppp exactly my point. Sonically they are worth about $300 in value to me was what i was saying.

^ yeppp x2 you need to get on those Ortofon tips ASAP!!!




Thanks for the kind words ekey boi, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of my tom trollery. Mo' to come. popcorn.gif

Soon..................... oh that reminds me i got some edits to do. : P
Haha seems interesting! Thanks! Will check it out! Was thinking of getting either Roxanne, Parterre, or Noble 6 to pair with my ASG2 and 4R.
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Hmm.. most agree GR07>VSD1. Many will also agree ASG-2>GR07.. Just saying.

But G2 are highly polarizing and individual. However the technical capabilities are in my opinion, clearly ahead of stuff like GR07. Though the sound signature isn't for everybody and it's very coloured which possibly makes it more of a complementing iem than the only one you have if you listen to a wide range of genres. Anyway. It's good, many think it's unique and well worth its cost. No need to say more than that, everything has already been said before in this thread.
Edited by MoonYeol - 12/15/13 at 3:10am
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I have been EQing my G2. Got tired of it even though it sounded fantastic. But I don't want to be unfair to Aurisonics. They made the G2 as it is, I will listen to it as it is, although I do use a Fiio cable and I did put foam in the bass valve canals. But I generally don't like to EQ. I'd rather find some hardware/mechanical way around it. Because if you're after a flat sound, you should go for something flat instead. Not something heavily coloured. But that's just my 2 c.
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Moon, asg2 is special animal and better be listened plain without EQuing... asg2 can grow on you literally and will shine with acoustics, start with Dianna Krall and further up. Also what source you use? I would advise against Fiio amps since they are darker more muffy so synergy might be not best. dx50 RWAK can make asg2 shine however.

i keep this IEM under serious consideration but first want hear some alternatives before pulling trigger next year, besides i hope Dale will do update asg2 and its cable.
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Oh. I meant as a reply. I did EQ the ASG-2 for maybe a week. Then I just felt like it wasn't what they were supposed to be. But whatever floats your boat.

Source wise I use an Apex Glacier or my Galaxy S4. I find the Glacier to be a good match with my current iems since they all more or less have a bit smoother upper mids and the Glacier kind of fixes that, at least more than a BH does. And a good soundstage. I'm perfectly happy with my three little darlings for now. But I'm thinking of just reverting a bit back to a darker tonality with my ASG-2. Going back to some other tips maybe. Otherwise it's not as unique and I don't pick it as often as the three I have aren't vastly different. Ok, enough ranting.
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oohh yyyeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I swear by my ZOv1! I open the valves all the way, iPod>CLAS-R>my ZenHead>ZOv1! wait till the ZO3, it's in the works, I like to amp and then amp some more, with the ZO thru the G2s, all the live long day! and with the Smart Vector Tech it isn't double amped, it just takes control of the ASGs bass, albeit I have to shut the ZO off from time to time, but paired along with the ZH amp it's beatiful! the ZO is to music as mortar is to brick, it fills in all of the gaps without covering any of it up! oohh yea!

 

I leave it on the lowest setting also, fills in the bass perfectly, and adds to the mids and more importantly the treble!

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Again. Open all the way?
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Any updates on the new one? Aurisonics said they will lunch this today on their facebook page...
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Again. Open all the way?

yep, it seems open up the sound quite a bit for me, by balancing it out more between the highs mids and lows, and then between the ZH, and the ZO? well I will put it this way, I wish I didn't have to work, so I could listen to it for the rest of my life, music is my therapy and therapy is GOOD!

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