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post #121 of 4784
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

After much consideration I'm selling my ASG-2. The major problems I have are with the mid-bass emphasis and corresponding lack of sub-bass. Like eke said earlier, the bass port affects mid-bass more than sub bass, so if I want an acceptable amount of mid-bass then sub-bass extension suffers.

Honestly with mid-bass where I want it on the ASG-2, I can discern more sub-bass detail on the ER4S!

Also the mids. Trent Reznor's vocals on Pretty Hate Machine by NIN are buried, and there is sibilance on just about every "s".

I could say more but the ASG-2 just isn't what I'm looking for, and these issues keep me from enjoying them on a lot of tracks.

If anyone's interested send me a pm.

 

 

I PM'd you.....

post #122 of 4784
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post

 

 

I PM'd you.....

 

Responded wink_face.gif

post #123 of 4784
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Responded wink_face.gif

If I had a signed copy of The Demon Haunted World, would you trade me?
post #124 of 4784
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post


If I had a signed copy of The Demon Haunted World, would you trade me?

 

Throw in Pale Blue Dot and you've got a deal. tongue_smile.gif (joke)

post #125 of 4784
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Throw in Pale Blue Dot and you've got a deal. tongue_smile.gif
 (joke)

Dam! So close yet so far away... 😩
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Edited by audionewbi - 5/23/13 at 5:52pm
post #127 of 4784
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

It's true the ER4 is my benchmark.

I came from an ER4 and from what you describe it seems you would enjoy the sound of a TG334 more.

I've been quite keen on hybrid designs and hope to get a chance to try the ag2, rdb+, 1plus2 etc soon.
post #128 of 4784
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

It's true the ER4 is my benchmark. The reason that it has a bump at ~2kHz is because that's how sound from a diffuse field reaches the eardrum. Mid-frequencies are boosted by the shape of the ear. Iems bypass that boost, and so they need to reproduce it to mimic sound from the air. The exact boost that everyone needs is different, but for me the ER4S (with red filters to warm it up just a bit) sounds the most like sound coming from a diffuse field. Experiments with many people have shown that those people report that iems with a bump at ~2kHz sound the most like a reference speaker. Without the mid-emphasis, iems don't sound like realistic sounds to me, and to people involved in these experiments. If people had reported something differently, then we would have a different diffuse field reference. Why more iem companies don't use the DF target baffles me. This is how TOTL full size headphones and speakers sound (with a bit more bass compared to the ER4S admittedly). I'm not actually sure most companies are following any target whatsoever, since people will buy just about anything these days. 

 

When listening to the ASG-2, too often all I think about is MID-BASS and TREBLE SPIKE, which is very distracting. For many tracks it isn't as apparent, and they sound quite accurate, but those tend to be simple acoustic tracks. But for albums by Muse and Queen, for example, vocals are just missing the mid/upper-mid emphasis, and then "S's" and "T's" are quite forward and sharp comparatively in an unnatural way. Freddie Mercury should sound strong and forward especially in the upper registers, which is not the case. He actually sounds a bit behind in the mix on most tracks. 

 

 Eke do you think the sub-bass is too far behind the mid-bass? And how about the treble compared to the GR07? I think the ASG-2 is definitely more treble forward than the GR07. 

 

And I found the bump to be pretty nasal, though that was on the ER6, plus there seemed to me like there was a severe lack of bass on the ER6. I don't know how closely the er6 and er4 are related though.

 

As for the treble spike, I never hear sibilance unless it's in the recording. Like shotgunshane, flysweep, and ericp10 have mentioned, the AS-2 is always smooth but will show what's in the recorded treble. However, I'm pretty sure the ASG-2's treble is more laid back than the GR07's. 

 

Yes the bass ratio is not my ideal. Nothing I can say about that biggrin.gif

 

 

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I came from an ER4 and from what you describe it seems you would enjoy the sound of a TG334 more.

I've been quite keen on hybrid designs and hope to get a chance to try the ag2, rdb+, 1plus2 etc soon.
 
 
I don't think he'd like that either. Both are pretty close in sound sig (check 2nd post for more detail).
 
Gnarl, I think you'd love the HD600. I own one right now, and it sounds like exactly the sound signature you want. 

Edited by eke2k6 - 5/23/13 at 5:17pm
post #129 of 4784

My ASG-2 has been sold people. It didn't take long!

post #130 of 4784
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

And I found the bump to be pretty nasal, though that was on the ER6, plus there seemed to me like there was a severe lack of bass on the ER6. I don't know how closely the er6 and er4 are related though.

 

As for the treble spike, I never hear sibilance unless it's in the recording. Like shotgunshane, flysweep, and ericp10 have mentioned, the AS-2 is always smooth but will show what's in the recorded treble. However, I'm pretty sure the ASG-2's treble is more laid back than the GR07's. 

 

Yes the bass ratio is not my ideal. Nothing I can say about that biggrin.gif

 

 

 

That's weird. Sibilance was an issue in many more tracks than I'm used to. Freddie Mercury especially. But I'm also used to the slight dip at 8k on the ER4S, so that might have something to do with it. It'd be great if someone else could get a ASG-2/GR07 comparison in here. I think they definitely share a common sound signature.   

post #131 of 4784
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

That's weird. Sibilance was an issue in many more tracks than I'm used to. Freddie Mercury especially. But I'm also used to the slight dip at 8k on the ER4S, so that might have something to do with it. It'd be great if someone else could get a ASG-2/GR07 comparison in here. I think they definitely share a common sound signature.   

 

Funny. I remember soundbear saying there was almost no treble redface.gif

 

I think they're pretty different, especially in the ass emphasis. Mids on the ASG-2 are also slightly warmer. GR07 highs aren't as refined either.

post #132 of 4784
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

I think they're pretty different, especially in the ass emphasis. Mids on the ASG-2 are also slightly warmer. GR07 highs aren't as refined either.

What kind of earphones are these?!

post #133 of 4784
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

My ASG-2 has been sold people. It didn't take long!

 

 

And you didn't even have to post it, go figure! Haha.

post #134 of 4784
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

I think they're pretty different, especially in the ass emphasis. Mids on the ASG-2 are also slightly warmer. GR07 highs aren't as refined either.

 

 

Agreed on the last two points. Not sure about the ass emphasis though... biggrin.gif

post #135 of 4784
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post

What kind of earphones are these?!

 

Didn't you hear that Aurisonics partnered up with Kim Kardashian? rolleyes.gif

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, I have a possible solution for you gnarl. In the pic below, you'll see sawn off T-500s. I used these back in the day on the FX700 to lessen the brutal impact of the bass. They work the same here, cutting the bass impact and increasing apparent rumble, while the shorter design prevents high freq loss. Try that if you have some handy.

 

 

 

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