gnarlsagan said:

After much consideration I'm selling my ASG-2. The major problems I have are with the mid-bass emphasis and corresponding lack of sub-bass. Like eke said earlier, the bass port affects mid-bass more than sub bass, so if I want an acceptable amount of mid-bass then sub-bass extension suffers.

Honestly with mid-bass where I want it on the ASG-2, I can discern more sub-bass detail on the ER4S!

Also the mids. Trent Reznor's vocals on Pretty Hate Machine by NIN are buried, and there is sibilance on just about every "s".

I could say more but the ASG-2 just isn't what I'm looking for, and these issues keep me from enjoying them on a lot of tracks.

If anyone's interested send me a pm.

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cn11 said:

 
 
I PM'd you.....

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gnarlsagan said:

Responded 

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unityispower said:

If I had a signed copy of The Demon Haunted World, would you trade me?

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gnarlsagan said:

Throw in Pale Blue Dot and you've got a deal. 

 (joke)

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gnarlsagan said:

It's true the ER4 is my benchmark.

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gnarlsagan said:

 
It's true the ER4 is my benchmark. The reason that it has a bump at ~2kHz is because that's how sound from a diffuse field reaches the eardrum. Mid-frequencies are boosted by the shape of the ear. Iems bypass that boost, and so they need to reproduce it to mimic sound from the air. The exact boost that everyone needs is different, but for me the ER4S (with red filters to warm it up just a bit) sounds the most like sound coming from a diffuse field. Experiments with many people have shown that those people report that iems with a bump at ~2kHz sound the most like a reference speaker. Without the mid-emphasis, iems don't sound like realistic sounds to me, and to people involved in these experiments. If people had reported something differently, then we would have a different diffuse field reference. Why more iem companies don't use the DF target baffles me. This is how TOTL full size headphones and speakers sound (with a bit more bass compared to the ER4S admittedly). I'm not actually sure most companies are following any target whatsoever, since people will buy just about anything these days. 
 
When listening to the ASG-2, too often all I think about is MID-BASS and TREBLE SPIKE, which is very distracting. For many tracks it isn't as apparent, and they sound quite accurate, but those tend to be simple acoustic tracks. But for albums by Muse and Queen, for example, vocals are just missing the mid/upper-mid emphasis, and then "S's" and "T's" are quite forward and sharp comparatively in an unnatural way. Freddie Mercury should sound strong and forward especially in the upper registers, which is not the case. He actually sounds a bit behind in the mix on most tracks. 
 
 Eke do you think the sub-bass is too far behind the mid-bass? And how about the treble compared to the GR07? I think the ASG-2 is definitely more treble forward than the GR07. 

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kkcc said:

I came from an ER4 and from what you describe it seems you would enjoy the sound of a TG334 more.

I've been quite keen on hybrid designs and hope to get a chance to try the ag2, rdb+, 1plus2 etc soon.

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eke2k6 said:

 
And I found the bump to be pretty nasal, though that was on the ER6, plus there seemed to me like there was a severe lack of bass on the ER6. I don't know how closely the er6 and er4 are related though.
 
As for the treble spike, I never hear sibilance unless it's in the recording. Like shotgunshane, flysweep, and ericp10 have mentioned, the AS-2 is always smooth but will show what's in the recorded treble. However, I'm pretty sure the ASG-2's treble is more laid back than the GR07's. 
 
Yes the bass ratio is not my ideal. Nothing I can say about that 

 
 

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gnarlsagan said:

 
That's weird. Sibilance was an issue in many more tracks than I'm used to. Freddie Mercury especially. But I'm also used to the slight dip at 8k on the ER4S, so that might have something to do with it. It'd be great if someone else could get a ASG-2/GR07 comparison in here. I think they definitely share a common sound signature.   

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eke2k6 said:

 
I think they're pretty different, especially in the ass emphasis. Mids on the ASG-2 are also slightly warmer. GR07 highs aren't as refined either.

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gnarlsagan said:

My ASG-2 has been sold people. It didn't take long!

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eke2k6 said:

 
I think they're pretty different, especially in the ass emphasis. Mids on the ASG-2 are also slightly warmer. GR07 highs aren't as refined either.
 

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rapidpulse said:

What kind of earphones are these?!

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