Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
....I kinda hate V-shaped sound (hollow, thin/lack of lushness, bright) as much as a too dark veiled highs (muddy, thick, warm) sound with a bassy can, it's important that the mids & highs are on a fairly even level. ..
DT770 Pro, D1100, LP2 for example all weren't very enjoyable for me due to not good enough mids & highs balance. I can appriciate slightly warm (actually slight warmth is welcome) better than slightly cold/bright sound, for me it's all about the mids vs highs balance when speaking of warmth or cold sound signatures...
This is exactly how I see it and agree with your preference in sound.
I had the LP but the bass overshadowed all and left a dark signature without the highs.
I also was fooled in other areas.
The Monster DNAs fooled me into loving their unnaturally boosted mids, but once the honeymoon was over,
I realized how their signature was not realistic.
Boosted mids and artificial sounding treble with good bass extension made for a very forward engaging sound.
A seductive yet non realistic sound.
Lucky I owned better midrange cans like the es7,
Then the esw9 wich were a more refined, richer sound, but too laid back for my taste tho.
I also experienced this description of a "hollw/thin" or "lack of lushness" in V-shaped phones.
The koss 100 & tiesto comes to mind.
Although the tiesto k167 had very impressive bass.
Deep and fast, but not heavy or loud.
It made the mids obviously recessed with its sparkling nice treble.
Yet the k167 bass was not as thick and strong as the m100,
wich, by the way, are also rich and satisfying and integrates well into its rich mids and highs.
The m100 cans make many other closed cans sound anemic in all areas and are the cans to beat.
So the all important mids and highs need to be there to sound real, and to me the m80 & m100 have that real midrange presence & lushness with complimentary highs.
I would say to me the m80 has the best mids over anything I had so far.
So looking forward to having an audio technica back into my rotating collection lol.