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C&C BH Portable Headphone Amp (80 Hours from a Single Charge!) [Buyer Review]
Apr 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM Post #1,666 of 3,421
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musicalchillies said:
Final update on this amp now it has had about 100 hours playing time.
Output 1 - ON
LF - ON
SF - ON
EDIT: High Gain (It is just better and little movement with the pot doesn`t bother me)
 
Considering I couldn`t listen to the amp with even the LF on it has come a long way in terms of satisfaction. The SF with my Momentums really gives a sense of space now, almost a surround sound feeling but a highly enjoyable experience.
 
Used with my Westone 4`s, very nice indeed but can`t match the sound stage of the Momentums with SF on.
 
If this thing breaks I will re-order from C&C, impressed. 
I will be changing to hifi amplification once I move house but there will always be a home for this little thing.
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So, burn in is good with the C&C. I should know this by now lol! I should probably keep observations to a minimum then, but this was interesting after 30 minutes with ELE DAC + C&C + WS99:
 
Out1,GC OFF, LF ON, SF OFF
or
Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON
 
Interesting that the GC (gain) seems to have an impact on the SF ON sound. I found that GC OFF + SF ON is seems a bit brighter than GC ON + SF ON (volume matched). I wasn't expecting that.
 
Obviously lots to learn with this puppy - time to start experimenting and reading! I can tell you this though - it sounds good with the WS99's!
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM Post #1,667 of 3,421
waynes world said:
Thanks! Which "out" do you use? Edit: I read the OP, and I'll stick with "out1" for now.

Btw, I am starting out the C&C BH testing journey off of my ELE DAC. Based on what I have read already, and based on how much I love the AD900X's through the ELE DAC + E12, I highly doubt that the AD900X's will sound better through the C&C, and I am envisioning that I will continue to use the AD900X's with the E12. But, I will of course be testing that out.

Where I am thinking the C&C might shine though is with the ELE DAC and the WS99's. They are closed, have an incredible bass and balanced sound, and they don't benefit as much as the AD900X's do with the E12 because the soundstage seems to narrow a bit, and the sound might become a tad bit warmer.

So, I'm hoping that the WS99's really benefit from the C&C, where a bit more brightness won't hurt, and the soundstage won't be narrowed. And I'm hoping for this not only off of the ELE DAC, but off of my Clip Zip (I was using the Clip ZIp + E11 + WS99 when moving about). So we'll see!

My one concern will be with my iem's off of the clip zip + C&C - I'm hoping that they don't become too sibilant for me because I'm treble sensitive. Again, we'll see!
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I use out 1 cause I feel like out 2 muddys up the bass and sounds odd. But as long as you darken the rest of ur setup the c&c bh should balance nicely. It's pretty cold for and amp, my experience is that most amps warm things up
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM Post #1,668 of 3,421
waynes world said:
So, burn in is good with the C&C. I should know this by now lol! I should probably keep observations to a minimum then, but this was interesting after 30 minutes with ELE DAC + C&C + WS99:

Out1,GC OFF, LF ON, SF OFF
or
Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON

Interesting that the GC (gain) seems to have an impact on the SF ON sound. I found that GC OFF + SF ON is seems a bit brighter than GC ON + SF ON (volume matched). I wasn't expecting that.

Obviously lots to learn with this puppy - time to start experimenting and reading! I can tell you this though - it sounds good with the WS99's!
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You know what you should listen to a live recording with sf enabled its epic. Especially Nirvana - MTV Unplugged in New York !!! Listen to the whole album with no interruptions. Sounds even better if its a quality file
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM Post #1,669 of 3,421
 
 
One thing though that I noticed, if anyone can chime in.  The BH seems to pick up EMI quite easily.
 
I have it double-locked to my Galaxy S3 so it's literally piggy-backed.
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Is your S3 in airport mode when you are using your BH? If not I would suggest trying that.  I was running an Amp/DAC with my Note 2 and got the same thing until I put it in airplane mode.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 8:25 PM Post #1,670 of 3,421
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dark helmet said:
 
 
Is your S3 in airport mode when you are using your BH? If not I would suggest trying that.  I was running an Amp/DAC with my Note 2 and got the same thing until I put it in airplane mode.
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Unfortunately, I never have my phone in airplane mode.  I constantly use the phone, so I need the data and everything else on.
 
I mean, the EMI noise is not super loud or distracting but, it seems to popup randomly.
 
But, if it's most likely because of the phone, then I guess it's something I'll have to live with.
 
I will give the airplane mode a try though.  Thank you.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 11:14 PM Post #1,671 of 3,421
swy05 said:
Unfortunately, I never have my phone in airplane mode.  I constantly use the phone, so I need the data and everything else on.

I mean, the EMI noise is not super loud or distracting but, it seems to popup randomly.

But, if it's most likely because of the phone, then I guess it's something I'll have to live with.

I will give the airplane mode a try though.  Thank you.
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You're welcome.
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 2:24 AM Post #1,672 of 3,421
So far, I am finding that the BH is pairing very nicely with:
- ELE DAC + BH + WS99's
- Clip Zip + BH + WS99's
- ELE DAC + BH + GR07BE's
- Clip ZIp + BH + GR07BE's
 
Using the BH so far mainly on these setting:
- Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON
 
I am really enjoying the added detail, and the LF ON is working for me, and I'm really enjoying the SF ON's affect on widening the soundstage. Overall effect is that both the WS99's and the GR07BE's seem to be "opened up". And my concerns about sibilance so far seems unfounded. I'm also really enjoying the small size and weight of the BH.
 
I get the feeling it's here with me to stay
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Apr 12, 2013 at 3:49 AM Post #1,673 of 3,421
Mine just arrived after a week. 10 minutes in and i'm loving it... 
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Edit : The usb cable i got for charging is wonky. Changed it with my PS3 controller charger and charging works fine.
 
Edit 2 : When i have GC set on/hi, it has this..low buzzing sound when there's no music playing. Is it just me?
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 6:24 AM Post #1,675 of 3,421
hiss or noise? a tiny hiss is being present on out 1 all the time and especially in high gain mode. out 2 is much more silent and you need to crunk up the volume all the way to hear some hiss.
 
noise? i found no noise whatsoever. so are we speaking about noise really?
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 8:14 AM Post #1,676 of 3,421
Check a few pages back. I had this same problem. Its a slight buzzing/whirring noise on out1 with highgain on.

I got my bh exchanged for another one and this one doesnt have that buzzing/whirring sound.
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 10:06 AM Post #1,678 of 3,421
I made a post about this before but how much EMI noise is normal?

Anyone else have this amp strapped to their phone as a source?

The EMI noises are not superloud but I do notice them sometimes. Especially when I pause a song or wgen I turn off/on the wifi for my phone.

In airplane mode, there is no EMI noise.
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 10:17 AM Post #1,679 of 3,421
swy05 said:
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In airplane mode, there is no EMI noise.
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It is just a fairly known problem with portable amps unfortunately, some suffer more than others. Airplane mode is the only real solution.

Or you could try wrapping your head in tin foil.
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 10:36 AM Post #1,680 of 3,421
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waynes world said:
So far, I am finding that the BH is pairing very nicely with:
- ELE DAC + BH + WS99's
- Clip Zip + BH + WS99's
- ELE DAC + BH + GR07BE's
- Clip ZIp + BH + GR07BE's
 
Using the BH so far mainly on these setting:
- Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON
 
I am really enjoying the added detail, and the LF ON is working for me, and I'm really enjoying the SF ON's affect on widening the soundstage. Overall effect is that both the WS99's and the GR07BE's seem to be "opened up". And my concerns about sibilance so far seems unfounded. I'm also really enjoying the small size and weight of the BH.
 
I get the feeling it's here with me to stay
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I like those settings as well but I use Out2 - seems to be a smoother sound - Out1 was just a bit too much in the upper end at times and sounded a little thinner. LF is always on while SF is used depending on recordings. Our BE's do pair nicely with this baby!!
 
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