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post #1666 of 3303
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Originally Posted by Sinth View Post

Final update on this amp now it has had about 100 hours playing time.

Output 1 - ON

LF - ON

SF - ON

EDIT: High Gain (It is just better and little movement with the pot doesn`t bother me)

 

Considering I couldn`t listen to the amp with even the LF on it has come a long way in terms of satisfaction. The SF with my Momentums really gives a sense of space now, almost a surround sound feeling but a highly enjoyable experience.

 

Used with my Westone 4`s, very nice indeed but can`t match the sound stage of the Momentums with SF on.

 

If this thing breaks I will re-order from C&C, impressed. 

I will be changing to hifi amplification once I move house but there will always be a home for this little thing.

 

So, burn in is good with the C&C. I should know this by now lol! I should probably keep observations to a minimum then, but this was interesting after 30 minutes with ELE DAC + C&C + WS99:

 

Out1,GC OFF, LF ON, SF OFF

or

Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON

 

Interesting that the GC (gain) seems to have an impact on the SF ON sound. I found that GC OFF + SF ON is seems a bit brighter than GC ON + SF ON (volume matched). I wasn't expecting that.

 

Obviously lots to learn with this puppy - time to start experimenting and reading! I can tell you this though - it sounds good with the WS99's!

post #1667 of 3303
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

Thanks! Which "out" do you use? Edit: I read the OP, and I'll stick with "out1" for now.

Btw, I am starting out the C&C BH testing journey off of my ELE DAC. Based on what I have read already, and based on how much I love the AD900X's through the ELE DAC + E12, I highly doubt that the AD900X's will sound better through the C&C, and I am envisioning that I will continue to use the AD900X's with the E12. But, I will of course be testing that out.

Where I am thinking the C&C might shine though is with the ELE DAC and the WS99's. They are closed, have an incredible bass and balanced sound, and they don't benefit as much as the AD900X's do with the E12 because the soundstage seems to narrow a bit, and the sound might become a tad bit warmer.

So, I'm hoping that the WS99's really benefit from the C&C, where a bit more brightness won't hurt, and the soundstage won't be narrowed. And I'm hoping for this not only off of the ELE DAC, but off of my Clip Zip (I was using the Clip ZIp + E11 + WS99 when moving about). So we'll see!

My one concern will be with my iem's off of the clip zip + C&C - I'm hoping that they don't become too sibilant for me because I'm treble sensitive. Again, we'll see!
I use out 1 cause I feel like out 2 muddys up the bass and sounds odd. But as long as you darken the rest of ur setup the c&c bh should balance nicely. It's pretty cold for and amp, my experience is that most amps warm things up
post #1668 of 3303
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

So, burn in is good with the C&C. I should know this by now lol! I should probably keep observations to a minimum then, but this was interesting after 30 minutes with ELE DAC + C&C + WS99:

Out1,GC OFF, LF ON, SF OFF
or
Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON

Interesting that the GC (gain) seems to have an impact on the SF ON sound. I found that GC OFF + SF ON is seems a bit brighter than GC ON + SF ON (volume matched). I wasn't expecting that.

Obviously lots to learn with this puppy - time to start experimenting and reading! I can tell you this though - it sounds good with the WS99's!
You know what you should listen to a live recording with sf enabled its epic. Especially Nirvana - MTV Unplugged in New York !!! Listen to the whole album with no interruptions. Sounds even better if its a quality file
Edited by mpawluk91 - 4/11/13 at 4:29pm
post #1669 of 3303

 

 

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One thing though that I noticed, if anyone can chime in.  The BH seems to pick up EMI quite easily.

 

I have it double-locked to my Galaxy S3 so it's literally piggy-backed.

Is your S3 in airport mode when you are using your BH? If not I would suggest trying that.  I was running an Amp/DAC with my Note 2 and got the same thing until I put it in airplane mode.

post #1670 of 3303
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Originally Posted by Dark Helmet View Post

 

 

Is your S3 in airport mode when you are using your BH? If not I would suggest trying that.  I was running an Amp/DAC with my Note 2 and got the same thing until I put it in airplane mode.

Unfortunately, I never have my phone in airplane mode.  I constantly use the phone, so I need the data and everything else on.

 

I mean, the EMI noise is not super loud or distracting but, it seems to popup randomly.

 

But, if it's most likely because of the phone, then I guess it's something I'll have to live with.

 

I will give the airplane mode a try though.  Thank you.

post #1671 of 3303
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Originally Posted by Swy05 View Post

Unfortunately, I never have my phone in airplane mode.  I constantly use the phone, so I need the data and everything else on.

I mean, the EMI noise is not super loud or distracting but, it seems to popup randomly.

But, if it's most likely because of the phone, then I guess it's something I'll have to live with.

I will give the airplane mode a try though.  Thank you.

You're welcome.
post #1672 of 3303

So far, I am finding that the BH is pairing very nicely with:

- ELE DAC + BH + WS99's

- Clip Zip + BH + WS99's

- ELE DAC + BH + GR07BE's

- Clip ZIp + BH + GR07BE's

 

Using the BH so far mainly on these setting:

- Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON

 

I am really enjoying the added detail, and the LF ON is working for me, and I'm really enjoying the SF ON's affect on widening the soundstage. Overall effect is that both the WS99's and the GR07BE's seem to be "opened up". And my concerns about sibilance so far seems unfounded. I'm also really enjoying the small size and weight of the BH.

 

I get the feeling it's here with me to stay smile.gif

post #1673 of 3303

Mine just arrived after a week. 10 minutes in and i'm loving it... L3000.gif

 

Edit : The usb cable i got for charging is wonky. Changed it with my PS3 controller charger and charging works fine.

 

Edit 2 : When i have GC set on/hi, it has this..low buzzing sound when there's no music playing. Is it just me?


Edited by vanillazai - 4/12/13 at 2:22am
post #1674 of 3303
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Originally Posted by vanillazai View Post

 

Edit 2 : When i have GC set on/hi, it has this..low buzzing sound when there's no music playing. Is it just me?

 

Do you hear this noise all the time or only during charging? 

post #1675 of 3303

hiss or noise? a tiny hiss is being present on out 1 all the time and especially in high gain mode. out 2 is much more silent and you need to crunk up the volume all the way to hear some hiss.

 

noise? i found no noise whatsoever. so are we speaking about noise really?

post #1676 of 3303
Check a few pages back. I had this same problem. Its a slight buzzing/whirring noise on out1 with highgain on.

I got my bh exchanged for another one and this one doesnt have that buzzing/whirring sound.
post #1677 of 3303

how's the pairing with the c&c bh amp with the Re262? Intending to pair c&c bh amp, colorfly c3 and the Re262. Opinions please.

post #1678 of 3303
I made a post about this before but how much EMI noise is normal?

Anyone else have this amp strapped to their phone as a source?

The EMI noises are not superloud but I do notice them sometimes. Especially when I pause a song or wgen I turn off/on the wifi for my phone.

In airplane mode, there is no EMI noise.
post #1679 of 3303
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Swy05 View Post

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In airplane mode, there is no EMI noise.

It is just a fairly known problem with portable amps unfortunately, some suffer more than others. Airplane mode is the only real solution.

Or you could try wrapping your head in tin foil.
post #1680 of 3303
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

So far, I am finding that the BH is pairing very nicely with:

- ELE DAC + BH + WS99's

- Clip Zip + BH + WS99's

- ELE DAC + BH + GR07BE's

- Clip ZIp + BH + GR07BE's

 

Using the BH so far mainly on these setting:

- Out1, GC ON, LF ON, SF ON

 

I am really enjoying the added detail, and the LF ON is working for me, and I'm really enjoying the SF ON's affect on widening the soundstage. Overall effect is that both the WS99's and the GR07BE's seem to be "opened up". And my concerns about sibilance so far seems unfounded. I'm also really enjoying the small size and weight of the BH.

 

I get the feeling it's here with me to stay smile.gif

I like those settings as well but I use Out2 - seems to be a smoother sound - Out1 was just a bit too much in the upper end at times and sounded a little thinner. LF is always on while SF is used depending on recordings. Our BE's do pair nicely with this baby!!

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