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Hisoundaudio Studio V 3rd Anniversary Edition Review
Nov 28, 2013 at 6:04 AM Post #736 of 1,483
lee730 said:
   
Well from what you said earlier regarding the number of tracks you are currently running, the boot time is still off.... Even when I was using the 64 GB cards with FLAC (about 2,500 songs) my unit would boot in about 40 to 45 seconds flat. Hmm, did you format your Sandisk micro SDXC cards to FAT32? Maybe that could be the issue if not. These players are not compatible with exFAT....
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Yep - brand new genuine Sandisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC (class 10).  Formatted (per your instructions) to FAT32.
 
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I'd love to know how to drop the boot time.  I feel like I've tried everything.  I have followed yours / Goodvibes instructions pretty much to the letter.
 
Nov 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM Post #737 of 1,483
brooko said:
   
Yep - brand new genuine Sandisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC (class 10).  Formatted (per your instructions) to FAT32.
 
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I'd love to know how to drop the boot time.  I feel like I've tried everything.  I have followed yours / Goodvibes instructions pretty much to the letter.
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Try drag and drop an album of yours onto mp3tag and take a screen shot of the entire screen with it in full window mode. Maybe I can see what's going on there. Could even be a certain format you are using that is causing the slower boots. I never used a whole lot of mp3 files so I wonder if that could be it? But definitely try reloading one card with smaller amounts of music per session. Then eject the card and then plug it back in again and load more. That might very well be the issue. A bit of a PITA if you ask me but it did work to reduce my times even further :).
 
Nov 28, 2013 at 7:58 AM Post #739 of 1,483
h20fidelity said:
 
I'm with Gignac, soundbear, KT66,. I think there's decent advantages (and disadvantages) amping the Studio, even with the little $100 BH amp. By itself the Studio (2nd) sounds dry and rather sterile, possibly overly colorless, even to some a touch mechanical or clunky with certain pairings (lacking PRaT). There's great detail which is what I missed amping, losing that final 10%, but the advantages in soundstage and layering adding the amp were quite enjoyable to me, also the kind of euphoric colouring C&C BH added gave the signature good swing and rhythm. Like adding salt n pepper sauce to a raw steak....
 
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One additional point on amping this player:
 
The main reason I was able to get away with having a good sound in the end is what I was pairing with in the headphone department: Heir Audio 4.Ai - these IEMs are notorious for detail in the upper mids & highs - they go out hunting for it and come to the door of your eardrum on bended knee with their day's gatherings.
 
Were I pairing with anything less detail focussed, I would have foregone the amping in the first place.  In fact, the amping was to make up for the sensitivities in the highs in these phones to begin with - and to help these IEMs to finally put their double low-end drivers to work.
 
When listening to this player with my LCD-2s, there is no need for additional amping.  With a set of Grado SR325s, I can take or leave the amping.  With Shure 425s, amping tends to make the lows overblown - and the mids hide behind rocks...or something.
 
Anyhow, it's about every component in the line.  Just wanted to be more clear about the fact that I don't recommend amping this player unless you're dissatisfied with the sound as it currently comes through your phones.
 
Believe me, pairing Heir 4.Ai with the Studio was nice - but so breathy and lacking in the lows that it essentially sounded like a junky set of 'tinny' in-ears + great clarity in the tin.  A super-focused tin-can sound, you could say.
 
Hope that explains my reasoning, and I hope I'm not: 
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Nov 28, 2013 at 8:13 AM Post #740 of 1,483
gignac said:
   
 
One additional point on amping this player:
 
The main reason I was able to get away with having a good sound in the end is what I was pairing with in the headphone department: Heir Audio 4.Ai - these IEMs are notorious for detail in the upper mids & highs - they go out hunting for it and come to the door of your eardrum on bended knee with their day's gatherings.
 
Were I pairing with anything less detail focussed, I would have foregone the amping in the first place.  In fact, the amping was to make up for the sensitivities in the highs in these phones to begin with - and to help these IEMs to finally put their double low-end drivers to work.
 
When listening to this player with my LCD-2s, there is no need for additional amping.  With a set of Grado SR325s, I can take or leave the amping.  With Shure 425s, amping tends to make the lows overblown - and the mids hide behind rocks...or something.
 
Anyhow, it's about every component in the line.  Just wanted to be more clear about the fact that I don't recommend amping this player unless you're dissatisfied with the sound as it currently comes through your phones.
 
Believe me, pairing Heir 4.Ai with the Studio was nice - but so breathy and lacking in the lows that it essentially sounded like a junky set of 'tinny' in-ears + great clarity in the tin.  A super-focused tin-can sound, you could say.
 
Hope that explains my reasoning, and I hope I'm not: 
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Just always wanted to use that smiley!
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I originally tried amping mainly to eradicate the hiss, which damn well works like a treat. But for something like my 100ohm (hiss immune) Etymotics ER4S they go straight to headphone out, and sound mighty fine to my ears. For example, I have an original 1Plus2 here atm and run them from the headphone out, (not sure n their impedance). this is where the basis of my problem lays, because it's just off being acceptable, and I've tried similar IEM's with the amp which weren't as pleasing. Fullsize headphones like Sony MDR-V6, also straight from headphone out. I think the word I'm searching for here is 'synergy' plays a big part whether an amp is required.  

My Rhapsodio RDB Mini sound a little like you're mentioning with the Heir 4.Ai from (2nd Edition) headphone out. Like there's some severe impedance swing that turns them overly bright and treble happy, Clarity included and all like you stated, I do however have lows intact. Strange expereince....... 

 
 
Nov 28, 2013 at 6:46 PM Post #741 of 1,483
Grrrrrrr!
 
So, yeah, it's me again, the one with the Studio V from hell.
 
My player functions...in the worst way possible.
 
When plugging it in to charge it either via computer or wall USB charger it constantly reboots itself in this non-stop cycle of madness.  I'd be fine with that, though it's probably not doing the player any favours, as it IS charging the device the whole time.
 
However, on top of that nonsense it's taken to shutting itself down while I'm using it.  On average I get about 4 minutes of use, then a shutdown, if I start it back up it usually gives me longer, but it eventually wants to shutdown.
 
I don't know if this is a battery issue or not, but it's frustrating.  I've moved from the Dynamic firmware to the BA firmware (which actually sounds much better when passed through the JDS C5 amp), and that, of course, did nothing to solve the issue...but I thought it was worth a shot.
 
Being cheap, I'd rather not send it in for a non-warranty repair, so I'm considering picking up another battery online of the same specs.
 
Has anyone here heard of this problem?  Honestly, I should have started my own thread about my player by now - it's been properly functional for about 30% of the time I've had it.
 
On a side note, I have an iBasso DX50 coming in the mail tomorrow.  Figured I needed a backup while I get this one back on its feet.
 
Nov 28, 2013 at 7:02 PM Post #743 of 1,483
brooko said:
   
Yep - brand new genuine Sandisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC (class 10).  Formatted (per your instructions) to FAT32.
 
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I'd love to know how to drop the boot time.  I feel like I've tried everything.  I have followed yours / Goodvibes instructions pretty much to the letter.
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I read there are some 'extended' tags that may be used, did you look for those also?
 
Nov 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM Post #744 of 1,483
Note:  Just did a full format of the onboard memory - didn't help...and it was tricky to do as the player reboot itself twice while I was attempting to perform the format.  Had to do a 'quick format' which worked, but the behaviour is exactly the same.
 
I'm doubting it's a battery issue.  There's just a demon inside it 
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Nov 28, 2013 at 7:13 PM Post #746 of 1,483
bearfnf said:
 
I read there are some 'extended' tags that may be used, did you look for those also?
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Linky?
 
I'm currently using FLAC (and only FLAC) properly tagged - with just Album, Artist, Track Name, Genre and Track # (2 digit with leading zero).  No V2 tags.  No other eroneous info.  Everything ripped with EAC from original CDs - but tagged with MP3tag.  Card is a genuine Sansa Class 10 64Gb - formatted to FAT32.
 
I'll try Lee's trick of loading a couple of albums at a time - but I think I'm going to have to put up with the 3.5 minutes boot time - unless I choose to have less files on the player ......
 
At least it's better than the original 5 minutes!
 
Nov 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM Post #747 of 1,483
goodvibes said:
  I suspect that you may have bought someone else's problems. Where did you get it?
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I bought it from a fellow headfier, yes.
 
It did, however, work well initially, and I DID put some of that funky firmware on it once.  It's never been the same since.
 
I may have fuggered it up...so I'm certainly not going to blame anyone else.  That being said, I hate to think that.
 
I may still send it over to Jack.  Possibly in the new year.  For now I'm just going to listen to podcasts...until Ira Glass makes me want to shoot myself in the head.
 
Oh, and the DX50 will be fun to try.  A whole new set of issues to have fun with! 
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Nov 28, 2013 at 7:17 PM Post #748 of 1,483
bearfnf said:
  heat? maybe? did you get a short somehow? could take it back apart and try it naked. heh
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A short makes sense.
 
the rebooting thing did happen before I opened it up, but now it's reseting so fast and often I can't even plug it in to transfer files.  It seems to be getting exponentially crazy - the reboot happens faster and faster.
 
I'd take a video, but I think you could picture it.  Both leds on, boot up screens, red led lit, 'initializing CMI' screen for about 3 seconds, everything off, repeat.
 
Nov 28, 2013 at 7:23 PM Post #749 of 1,483
Also, this happens with or without a MicroSD card installed.
 
As I mentioned, this did happen before, but at a much lower frequency (I could transfer files, for instance, and it would only catch me occasionally - I think it only ever happened twice during a transfer).
 
Anyhow, it was fun while it lasted?  Yeah, it was fun...but it's also been a tease: "here's a player I really love the sound of"..."too bad, you can't have it!"
 
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p.s. - Anyone want to trade?
 
Brooko: I'll gladly take your 3.5 minute boot time 
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Nov 28, 2013 at 7:54 PM Post #750 of 1,483
brooko said:
   
Linky?
 
I'm currently using FLAC (and only FLAC) properly tagged - with just Album, Artist, Track Name, Genre and Track # (2 digit with leading zero).  No V2 tags.  No other eroneous info.  Everything ripped with EAC from original CDs - but tagged with MP3tag.  Card is a genuine Sansa Class 10 64Gb - formatted to FAT32.
 
I'll try Lee's trick of loading a couple of albums at a time - but I think I'm going to have to put up with the 3.5 minutes boot time - unless I choose to have less files on the player ......
 
At least it's better than the original 5 minutes!
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Sorry could not find the original post but did find this from the MP3tag FAQ:
 
Which tag fields are supported by Mp3tag?
Mp3tag's tag panel supports the following fields for all tag types:•Artist •Album •Title •Year •Genre •Track Number •Comment
All extended tag fields can be edited by either selecting View >Extended Tags... or by pressing [Alt+T].
You can also add additional file list columns for extended tag fields via View > Customize Columns... and edit the tag fields directly in the file list.
You can also add more tag fields to the tag panel via Tools > Options > Tag Panel.
You can find a list of all ID3v2 tag-field names and their mappings to other applications at this topic in Mp3tag's help file.
 
 
I am sure you can also find similar tag editing in foobar and dBPowerAmp or maybe JRiver media center.
 
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