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Poll Results: Which headphone is the best from your experience? (Please use thread for comments, follow poll rules)

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 8% (6)
    AKG K167 Tiesto
  • 8% (6)
    AKG K267 Tiesto
  • 4% (3)
    Audio Technica ATH-WS99
  • 0% (0)
    Denon AH-D400
  • 5% (4)
    Denon AH-D600
  • 7% (5)
    Logitech Ultimate Ears UE6000
  • 2% (2)
    Logitech Ultimate Ears UE9000
  • 2% (2)
    PSB M4U 1
  • 2% (2)
    PSB M4U 2
  • 23% (16)
    Sennheiser MOMENTUM
  • 13% (9)
    SONY MDR-1R Series (Wired/BT/NC)
  • 0% (0)
    SONY XB900
  • 1% (1)
    Velodyne vTrue
  • 0% (0)
    Velodyne vFree
  • 22% (15)
    V-MODA Crossfade M-100
  • 1% (1)
    YAMAHA Pro Series (400/500)
67 Total Votes  
post #16 of 211
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by eron View Post

 

Now that you have disabled the poll, may I know which group of options you want to fulfil for this poll? Top 2 together, and bottom 2 together. You see, the top 2 will usually evolve when people read more, and when more reviews come. Both are subjective for people using it as a guide. For example, 1 think that the Momentum is too bassy, the other thing it's not. The 2nd group is more deterministic.

Now that you put it that way, I can see that they would work together that way.

 

How about, once shipping is confirmed, we will use the first two options:

 

  • ... that headphone is high on your "to buy" list.
  • ... that headphone sounds great in your opinion from reading the reviews on it. (FWYR)

 

... For the first two weeks. Then we will take note of the responses, and reset the poll to use the second two options:

  • ... that headphone sounds great in your opinion from your own personal listening. (FWYH)
  • ... or you have bought and/or enjoyed that headphone.

 

... For the remainder of the thread. 

 

 

Is this a good idea? Thoughts?

post #17 of 211

I've just auditioned the sennheiser momentum at J&R today with my sansa fuze -> LOD -> E17. I made a playlist based off of the music that i've been listening to recently, which consisted mainly of electronic (touhou) as well as a few vocal, rock, metal, instrumental, and orchestral tracks. I will mainly be comparing these to my v-sonic GR07, my current IEM that I take around with me. I prefer a bright, and warm sound signature, like the sound provided by my dt880/600 powered by my decco2 & little dot mkiii. I've only started getting into the hi-fi hobby about two monthes ago, so please excuse my inexperience.

 

I have tried the m80, crossfade lp2, ath m50 and the hd-25 adidas. I definitely prefer the momentum's sound signature over those portables based off of memory. I can't really compare to the momentum to the other three very well, since i've only tried them for about 30 minutes each, and that was a while ago. For the record, those headphones were very uncomfortable for me to wear.

 


 

Comfort - I wear thick framed glasses, and the momentum clamped my glasses in a way that I couldn't move them unless i moved the headphones themselves. The leather is very soft, and would probably be very comfortable for those who don't wear glasses. I started experiencing pain on where my glasses' earpiece touches my head after about 30 minutes of usage. They momentum's earpads were mostly on my ear, not around it. On the other hand, the momentum was very nice around my neck; it was light, and the earcups were small enough to not bother my neck or chin.

 

Build quality - Solid metal, nice leather headband and earpads. The cable is pretty nice imo, it's thicker than most IEM cables, but not as thick as most full-sized headphones. It's also nice that the 3.5mm plug can be used straight or at an angle, and you can remove the cable for better portability

Soundstage - Decent soundstage for closed headphones, they sounded a little bit more closed than my dt770/250, more open than my gr07 of course. 

 

Imaging - Pretty good separation of instruments, could tell where the instruments were in the orchestral tracks that I played.

 

Bass - Based on many impressions that i've read about the momentum, I first thought that these were supposed to be BASSY. But upon listening to them, I felt that they were fairly neutral to me, and definitely not as warm as the gr07. The momentum has a very pronounced mid-bass emphasis, and is very tight and punchy; never bloated or muddy. What I find lacking is the sub-bass. I could barely hear the low notes at all, unless I pushed the earcups into my ears more, which resulted in pain from my glasses.

 

Mids - Very forward compared to the gr07 and the dt880/600. Vocals were clear, and guitars sounded great. I like it! No complaints here.

 

Treble - As mentioned before, I like the brightness of the DT880/600 and I usually EQ my headphones to get the treble levels up to the dt880's. So usually I use +4 treble on my gr07, which is considered neutral, but slightly warm. I feel that the momentum has just about the right amount of treble for me. Very clean, and extended treble response, no sibilance to note of (im not very sensitive to it, but then again in used to the dt880's). Never harsh or fatiguing at all, awesome.

 


 

I really like the momentum's sound signature, except for the lack of sub-bass. I would not buy the momentum though, mainly because it's uncomfortable for me and I feel that the $349 retail price is way too high for the SQ that you get out of it, as I feel that the SQ is just slightly better than my gr07; maybe perhaps I would consider it if it were around $200. 

 

I'm looking forward to impressions of the m100, as I liked the m80's sound signature. But if their comfort is anything like the LP2's, then it's a no-go for me.

post #18 of 211

thanks for the review, thegunner100. Enlightening enough :-)
 

post #19 of 211

I just picked up Momentum and A//B'd against the UE6000.   The clear winner is.....................................................UE6000.

 

The UE6000 is tighter, goes deeper and is more dynamic on the low end with smoother, more natural mids and highs.  On some songs I found Momentum almost harsh where the UE6000 was better extended and silky by comparison.  Bottom line, I am keeping the UE6000 regardless of any headphone I may come across and am returning Momentum tomorrow.

post #20 of 211
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

I just picked up Momentum and A//B'd against the UE6000.   The clear winner is.....................................................UE6000.

The UE6000 is tighter, goes deeper and is more dynamic on the low end with smoother, more natural mids and highs.  On some songs I found Momentum almost harsh where the UE6000 was better extended and silky by comparison.  Bottom line, I am keeping the UE6000 regardless of any headphone I may come across and am returning Momentum tomorrow.

Wish I could change my poll options. I picked the Momentum, when it seems that I will like the UE6000 far more.
post #21 of 211
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

I just picked up Momentum and A//B'd against the UE6000.   The clear winner is.....................................................UE6000.

 

The UE6000 is tighter, goes deeper and is more dynamic on the low end with smoother, more natural mids and highs.  On some songs I found Momentum almost harsh where the UE6000 was better extended and silky by comparison.  Bottom line, I am keeping the UE6000 regardless of any headphone I may come across and am returning Momentum tomorrow.


I'm assuming you don't use the noise canceling feature ? (supposed to degrade sound quality).

post #22 of 211
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post


Wish I could change my poll options. I picked the Momentum, when it seems that I will like the UE6000 far more.

Poll will be brought back once all headphone have been confirmed to be shipping.

post #23 of 211
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post


Wish I could change my poll options. I picked the Momentum, when it seems that I will like the UE6000 far more.


The UE6000 snuck up on me very quickly.  I read Tyll's review a few days ago and felt that the M-100 wouldn't be coming out anytime soon, so I drove an hour to pick them up and I am so glad I did.  I became so accustomed to trying headphones and not liking something about them that I was really thrown for a loop while listening to these for the first time.  They have not changed with burn-in and I am so happy about that.  It was love at first listen.  If the M-100 wasn't already on the way to my house, I would probably call it a day and say "mission accomplished" on my perfect portable headphone search....at least for a few months :)


Edited by Craigster75 - 10/6/12 at 8:24pm
post #24 of 211
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRSxIgnition View Post

Now that you put it that way, I can see that they would work together that way.

 

How about, once shipping is confirmed, we will use the first two options:

 

  • ... that headphone is high on your "to buy" list.
  • ... that headphone sounds great in your opinion from reading the reviews on it. (FWYR)

 

... For the first two weeks. Then we will take note of the responses, and reset the poll to use the second two options:

  • ... that headphone sounds great in your opinion from your own personal listening. (FWYH)
  • ... or you have bought and/or enjoyed that headphone.

 

... For the remainder of the thread. 

 

 

Is this a good idea? Thoughts?

Honestly, it would be simplest, and most accurate to just say:

"Vote for the best headphone you have listened to, and would recommend it to your best friend".

post #25 of 211
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eron View Post

Honestly, it would be simplest, and most accurate to just say:

"Vote for the best headphone you have listened to, and would recommend it to your best friend".

Well if that's what you and head-fi thinks will work best, I can do that. It would just turn into a "which headphone is selling the best" poll at that point though - but if that's okay, I can do it.

 

EDIT: Apologies, misread. I guess that will work. The new question will be "Vote for the headphone(s) that you believe sound best, and recommend most."


Edited by BRSxIgnition - 10/6/12 at 11:37pm
post #26 of 211
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Originally Posted by BRSxIgnition View Post

Well if that's what you and head-fi thinks will work best, I can do that. It would just turn into a "which headphone is selling the best" poll at that point though - but if that's okay, I can do it.

 

EDIT: Apologies, misread. I guess that will work. The new question will be "Vote for the headphone(s) that you believe sound best, and recommend most."

I don't know why you still want to venture into encouraging people to vote for headphones they have not heard.

Maybe "best headphones you have listened to". Sounding best can be a limited gauge for purchase. Comfort matters too. For example, it can sound awesome for 1 minute of the song, but you wouldn't wear it for a second longer. 


Edited by eron - 10/7/12 at 1:19am
post #27 of 211
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eron View Post

I don't know why you still want to venture into encouraging people to vote for headphones they have not heard.
Maybe "best headphones you have listened to". Sounding best can be a limited gauge for purchase. Comfort matters too. For example, it can sound awesome for 1 minute of the song, but you wouldn't wear it for a second longer. 
Please read it again. It is asking them to vote on the ones they've heard, nothing more. I want people to make informed choices as much as you do.

If you want very specific wording, let me know what wording you want.
post #28 of 211

I'm unsure if it's been mentioned elsewhere, but Crutchfield has listed the PSB M4U 1 as in stock.  I'm aware that they're being championed as the all-passive version of the M4U 2, but has anyone confirmed a purchase of these yet?

post #29 of 211
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Originally Posted by Curly21029 View Post

I'm unsure if it's been mentioned elsewhere, but Crutchfield has listed the PSB M4U 1 as in stock.  I'm aware that they're being championed as the all-passive version of the M4U 2, but has anyone confirmed a purchase of these yet?


No, but the red looks great.  I'm not sure what made all the manufacturer's pull the trigger right now, but it seems like every headphone on my short list comes out this week.

post #30 of 211
Let's hope 3x is charm! :-P

Craig, great to hear about the UE6ks. I'm getting more and more interested in this hp. Would you say drums, vocals and strings sound natural and realistic to your ears?
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