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post #1426 of 5135
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

 

"D-Zero USB OTG hooked up to Galaxy S3. Works like a charm…

This is nice... I just received an iBasso D-Zero bought directly from the manufacturer. I had no idea that a short USB OTG cable is included in the box now.

The cable is marked iBasso Audio - Android 4.0 & Above USB OTG Cable.

 

Has anyone found a cable like this outside of China/HK?  I would think there should be a few takers of this vs. the archos cable listed on ebay and since most android phones are now micro plugged, there should be some market for it.  I tried to send iBasso a message via their web form and hope to hear something back from them soon.

post #1427 of 5135

This looks like it might work, but it hasn't come in yet, so I can't vouch for its efficacy: 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251211470827?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

post #1428 of 5135

Thanks.... I bought one, but that ibasso one, with the much shorter cable, looks much better for a pocket solution.

post #1429 of 5135

Yeah, I agree. Hopefully they'll make it available pretty quickly. I actually wouldn't mind paying a few bucks more for one with a flexible Kevlar sheathing or something else that's particularly durable, attractive and tactile-ly pleasing tongue.gif

post #1430 of 5135
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

 

Woah hold on yourself! :)  I wasn't saying that was a good idea, only that it isn't indicative that USB audio isn't operating correctly, which seemed to be the posters concern. Naturally it should be on full volume on the phone in most scenarios.

 

I have encountered bass distortion though as described by CynicalMushroom, but only with my Pico on my US S3 (when I had it) and with certain music like Massive Attack and using my LCD-2. Is certainly not a problem with my files, which are perfect FLAC rips. Will be interested to see whether that is also the case with the Pico and International S3/Note 2 when I get mine back from Justin with the compatibility fix for those handsets.

 

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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

Don't know how much it helps, but Neutron has a "Preamp Out" setting that supposedly sets the digital gain to zero, avoiding the truncation of bits. Having used the feature, I can tell you it doesn't lock the volume (or at least, I haven't figured out how to do it yet), so it isn't foolproof or anything. But this might address the loss-of-bits issue! :)

If we're talking about Neutron player then I can tell you I have also experienced this, and I know EXACTLY what it is.

 

You have Automatic Gain Protection on. And it boosts the gain, turn it off, or set the gain to a lower number like 0.9

 

I had to ask in the forum to figure that out, was bugging the hell out of me a few weeks ago

post #1431 of 5135
Thread Starter 

Oh, BTW all, got my HTC Butterfly today - tried my Apex Glacier with it and it works! So it seems like HTC are embracing a more standard USB audio implementation in their Jelly Bean firmwares now too.

 

Just formatting my card from exFAT to Fat32 (so it'll work with the Butterfly) and re-loading with music, will test some more and test my other USB DACs later and confirm which are working with it.

post #1432 of 5135
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

Oh, BTW all, got my HTC Butterfly today - tried my Apex Glacier with it and it works! So it seems like HTC are embracing a more standard USB audio implementation in their Jelly Bean firmwares now too.

 

Just formatting my card from exFAT to Fat32 (so it'll work with the Butterfly) and re-loading with music, will test some more and test my other USB DACs later and confirm which are working with it.

Butterfly....wink_face.gif,....popcorn.gif.

post #1433 of 5135
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

Oh, BTW all, got my HTC Butterfly today - tried my Apex Glacier with it and it works! So it seems like HTC are embracing a more standard USB audio implementation in their Jelly Bean firmwares now too.

 

Just formatting my card from exFAT to Fat32 (so it'll work with the Butterfly) and re-loading with music, will test some more and test my other USB DACs later and confirm which are working with it.

 

HTC Butterfly (aka HTC Droid DNA, HTC J Butterfly): 5", 1920*1080, 2GB RAM, quad-core S4

http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-butterfly/

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4542/4843184/2/m/4843526/

 

HTC Butterfly > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> iBasso D12 Hj USB DAC/amp >> Westone UM-3X IEM

 

 

post #1434 of 5135
Thread Starter 

OK, HTC Butterfly definitely working with my Apex Glacier and Leckerton UHA-6S.MKII. Confirmation with Intruder still to come, needs a charge first! Confirmation with my Pico will be delayed until it returns from Justin at HeadAmp.

 

I do note it is more prone to interference than the Samsung handsets with USB audio. On the Samsung's I leave data and such like connected and have no noise from that, whereas a got a fair amount even over 20s or so listening with the Butterfly. Switching Butterfly to Airplane mode stopped all such noises.

 

Pics and such like to come :)

post #1435 of 5135
I can confirm that the cable works but it is not pliable and quite long. Still better than my previous OTG solution.

 

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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

This looks like it might work, but it hasn't come in yet, so I can't vouch for its efficacy: 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251211470827?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

post #1436 of 5135
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by haojan View Post

I can confirm that the cable works but it is not pliable and quite long. Still better than my previous OTG solution.

 

 

I confirmed that cable a few pages back too, works fine. Agree on length and rigidity not being ideal (minds out of the gutter people). Also prefer it to a two cable solution despite that.

post #1437 of 5135

is there a dac or interface that works with "usb audio recorder pro" with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (I own) and Google Nexus7 (I am seriously thinking of bying)?

I have tried the my Nexus with m2tech hiface2 and prodigy cube but both play with glitchy sound... the cube less is less glitchy but still quite audible... anything that works well??

the has anybody tried A/quest Dragonfly?

also something self powered?

 

thnx!!!!

post #1438 of 5135
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Originally Posted by DomieMic65 View Post

is there a dac or interface that works with "usb audio recorder pro" with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (I own) and Google Nexus7 (I am seriously thinking of bying)?

I have tried the my Nexus with m2tech hiface2 and prodigy cube but both play with glitchy sound...

 

I tried the free trial off of their website, and it was not very good on my tablet.  You have to match the outputs in the app to the file and it was either choppy or fast when I tried outputting to my e17 and as far as I can tell, you have to use their player

 

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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

 Agree on length and rigidity not being ideal (minds out of the gutter people)..

 

So hard to resist! (ooops)

 

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Originally Posted by ozarkcdn View Post

Has anyone found a cable like this outside of China/HK?  I would think there should be a few takers of this vs. the archos cable listed on ebay and since most android phones are now micro plugged, there should be some market for it.  I tried to send iBasso a message via their web form and hope to hear something back from them soon.

 

They responded quickly, and no, they don't sell it seperately.  I would think that someone should sell these, I think there would be a few takers!

post #1439 of 5135
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

 

I confirmed that cable a few pages back too, works fine. Agree on length and rigidity not being ideal (minds out of the gutter people). Also prefer it to a two cable solution despite that.

 

Agreed. That's the appeal of this one for me. 

post #1440 of 5135
A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with standard USB DAC:
 
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 
. Acer Iconia Tab A200 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Acer Iconia Tab A500 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Archos G9 (tablet):
 
. Asus Transformer Pad TF300 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Asus Transformer Prime using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Google Galaxy Nexus using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
. Google Nexus 7 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Google Nexus 10 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. HTC Butterfly / HTC Droid DNA  / HTC J Butterfly (smartphone):
 
. Huawei Ascend D1 Quad XL using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
. Huawei MediaPad using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Meizu MX Quad-Core using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
. Motorola Razr Maxx HD using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
. Motorola Xoom using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Samsung Galaxy Camera EK-G100 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (camera):
 
. Samsung Galaxy Note II (smartphone):
 
. Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (tablet):
 
. Samsung Galaxy R using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
. Samsung Galaxy S III (smartphone):
 
. Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Sony Xperia S using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
. Sony Xperia Sola using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
. Sony Xperia Tablet S using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Toshiba Thrive using USB Audio Recorder PRO (tablet):
 
. Wiko Cink King using USB Audio Recorder PRO (smartphone):
 
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note II:
 
stock Galaxy Note II > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted into the Note II) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 
. Apex Glacier (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Audio-gd NFB-16 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. AudioQuest DragonFly using USB Audio Recorder PRO:
 
. CEntrance DACport LX using USB Audio Recorder PRO:
 
. ELE EL-D01:
 
. FiiO E07K Andes (USB DAC/amp): to be confirmed
 
. Focal XS 2.1 (USB speakers): 
 
. GoVibe Magnum (USB DAC/amp):
 
. GoVibe Martini-U (USB DAC/amp):
 
. GoVibe Vulcan (USB DAC/amp):
 
. HRT HeadStreamer Mobile (USB DAC/amp):
 
. HeadAmp Pico USB DAC/Amp: bug fixed by HeadAmp
 
. HeadAmp Pico Upsampling USB DAC: 
 
. Headstage Lyrix Pro USB total (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):
 
. MyST 1866 PortaDAC (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Objective DAC (ODAC):
 
. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. RSA Intruder (USB DAC/amp):
 
. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Sony PHA-1 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Stoner Acoustics UD100:
 
. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp): USB cable provided by VentureCraft
 
. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Zoom H4 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (USB recorder):
 
 
So far, like the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy S III, the new quad-core Exynos powered Samsung Galaxy Note II can work with the FiiO E7, the iBasso D12, Leckerton UHA-6S MKII, the ODAC, … ; had some issue with the HeadAmp Pico (bug fixed by HeadAmp); and doesn’t work with the FiiO E17 using the stock USB audio driver.
 
So, in regard to the USB protocol, the behaviour of the Galaxy Note II is likely identical to the behaviour of the Galaxy S III.
 
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:
 
stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted into the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 
. AMB Gamma 1:
 
. AMB Gamma 2:
 
. Apex Glacier (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Atoll DAC 100:
 
. Audio-gd Sparrow Version A  (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Behringer UCA202 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Behringer UCA222 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Beresford Caiman:
 
. C-Media chipset-based sound card Dynamode 7 channel USB 2.0 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Cakewalk Sonar SPS 25:
 
. Cambridge Audio DacMagic:
 
. CEntrance DacMini using USB Audio Recorder PRO (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Corsair HS1 Gaming headset (USB DAC/amp/headphones):
 
. Creative Xmod:
 
. Dared MP 5 or ALO JV5 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. ELE EL-D01:
 
. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. FiiO E07K Andes (USB DAC/amp): to be confirmed
 
. FiiO E17 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Furutech ADL Cruise (USB DAC/amp):
 
. GoVibe DAC:
 
. GoVibe Mini USB DAC:
 
. GoVibe Petite (USB DAC/amp):
 
. HRT HeadStreamer (USB DAC/amp):
 
. HRT Music Streamer II:
 
. HeadAmp Pico USB DAC/Amp: bug fixed by HeadAmp
 
. HeadAmp Pico Upsampling USB DAC: 
 
. HeadRoom Total BitHead (USB DAC/amp):
 
. HeadStage USB DAC cable:
 
. HiFiMan Express HM-101:
 
. HiFimeDIY Sabre USB DAC using USB Audio Recorder PRO:
 
. Hippo CriCri+ using USB Audio Recorder PRO (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D2 Boa (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D2+ Boa (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D5 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D6 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. iBasso DB2 using USB Audio Recorder PRO:
 
. iQube v2 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. JH Audio JH-3A (USB DSP/DAC/amp/JH16 CIEM):
 
. Jabra GN 5035 (USB headset):
 
. KingRex UD-01:
 
. Leckerton UHA-4 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Logitech wíreless gaming headset G930 (USB wireless headset):
 
. M-Audio Duo USB Audio Interface:
 
. Matrix Mini-i (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Meier Audio Cantate.2 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Microsoft Philips Digital Sound System 80 (USB DAC/amp/speakers):
 
. Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 (USB headset):
 
. MyST 1866 PortaDAC (USB DAC/amp):
 
. NuForce Icon HDP (USB DAC/amp):
 
. NuForce Icon Mobile (USB DAC/amp):
 
. NuForce Icon uDAC-2 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Objective DAC (ODAC):
 
. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Ordnance .25 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. RSA Intruder (USB DAC/amp):
 
. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Sony PHA-1 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Stoner Acoustics UD100:
 
. Syba SD-AUD20101: 
 
. Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Topping D2 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Topping TP30 (USB DAC/amp):
 
. Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro II:
 
. Unique Melody PP6 using USB Audio Recorder PRO (USB DSP/DAC/amp/CIEM):
 
. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp): USB cable provided by VentureCraft
 
. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):
 
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