iBasso DX100:24 bit for bit, PG 1> Reviews & Impressions, Downloads, VIDEO, NEW Firmware 1.4.2.
Jan 28, 2013 at 5:35 AM Post #10,216 of 13,503
**** UPDATE - Stop issue ****
 
Are those experiencing the random stop, using battery or mains power?
 
I have confirmed that this is only happening to me on battery - really annoying as it happens every few minutes.
If I plug into the mains, it doesn't happen at all
 
 
****  EDIT ****
Going to Reset the Player, to remove some of the apps I've installed and remove Root access and start from fresh again.
Let it charge to 100% and then use battery
Play one whole album via Folder
Move onto another album
 
....and see what happens
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 5:36 AM Post #10,217 of 13,503
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Okay, just did a complete new install with 1.3.5 and with only a couple albums loaded I can get the same issue repeat. Nothing else loaded. Exit the Music App with the advanced UI and its fine until you go through a complete album. If you change the repeat setting the loop, no problem. But who wants to loop the same album or playlist over and over.

Going to go back to 1.2.7 as per Lee's suggestion, but not getting my hopes up as I was getting this on that FW too. Didn't notice it much because I was playing around with my new DAP so much, I might not have finished too many albums before hoping to a new one.

HKPPL... Try to do exactly the same as me and kryten123, ie play through the last track of an album until it stops, select a new album and you may find it will stop after 2-3 mins. And it will keep stopping until you exit the app and start playing again. You don't need to reboot and rebooting while it will fix the first album play, it will stop next time once you've played through an album. Incidentally, you don't need to play through the whole album or even the whole last track. You can scrobble through to near e end of that last track and replicate the issue from my experience.

Lee... I guess it is a small PITA in comparison to how good this player is, but if Apple dished this up, they would be pilloried for having such a defective device don't you think? It's bugs like these that has me completely frustrated with Microsoft and these days as the manager of a fair sized enterprise, I think for the money we expend I expect top performance. If it was a car, you'd call it a lemon, no matter how nice it drove.

I'll keep the thread posted...


Hmm well I exclusively used playlists when I had my unit. Could be why I never had these issues. I even made playlists for my albums as it was the fastest and most efficient way to access the music. Felt similar to an iphone4 in how smooth it was to be quite frank :). I felt accessing music via the other options to be slower and IMO a waste of time :). I suffer with serious OCD and have never been good with patience at all :wink:. Although it does take patience to set up all your music in this manner. But once you do it and you save it on a separate hard drive for archival purposes, you'll never go through it again as long as you have backups. Then you just add as you go. I'm a total control freak when it comes to stuff like this lol :p. Just hearing the issues with reversed playlists again (this was an issue on the very first firmware) is a big no, no and I would not stick with this firmware due to that....
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 5:49 AM Post #10,218 of 13,503
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Interested to hear people are liking the change to the sound after the fw update. I've been on the fence. The previous version sounded really good with my k3003s but the current one not so much. Vocals seem much more forward and boosted, almost to the point of clipping. I was set to roll back when I tried with my he-500s (via o2 amp). Amazing, simply amazing. The bass extension is much improved without any sacrifice to the upper frequencies and the mids are perfect. Think I need to spend some more time with the k3003 and maybe try experimenting with the eq. Was very pleased with the results with the he-500. Good job ibasso.

 
Rolled back to 1.2.7.  Sounds just right again. I don't use the HE-500 combo too much with the DX, even on 1.2.7 is still sounds amazing. the K3003/DX synergy is way better with 1.2.7. 
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 6:17 AM Post #10,219 of 13,503
I've rolled back to 1.2.7 and the first test has not shown the stop play. But early days and as I wrote earlier, I did experience this on 1.2.7 sometimes. Transferring my library now. Must say, I never really yearned for an update and am also annoyed by the reverse order playlists too. Using the sort function is fine but it cannot be made the default by the look and you can't bring up the sot menu until you are playing the list already. So lets see what happens with the roll back.

Lee, I have my music library well organised on an external drive too and two backups as well as my NAS storage. Spent a lot of time getting my tags correct and although some don't like it for whatever reason, speed, access and soon, I have my album art worked out well too. I like to use it personally. But I fail to see how playlists can be that useful other than for creating a multi CD recording playlists/genre/artist/style/genius like mixes and so on. As such, I have several playlists like that but I like to select individual albums from time to time. And I seem to recall I've also had this problem with playlists after getting to the last track on the list.

Stand by...

Kryten123.... I tried uninstalling and so on to no avail. Hope your experience is better than mine.
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 6:26 AM Post #10,220 of 13,503
Kryten123.... I tried uninstalling and so on to no avail. Hope your experience is better than mine.

 
I've reset now and leaving it to index while it charges to 100%.
Once charged, we'll see what happens
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 6:28 AM Post #10,221 of 13,503
Personally I just organized my entire DAP library via playlists. So if I have specific albums that I wanted to keep in tact I'd make a playlist specifically for that album. Like Ozzy - Diary of a Mad Man, etc. I also made several playlists which multiple tracks such as Favorite 80's 01, Favorite 90's 01, Favorite Reggae, etc. That way everything is set up exactly how I want it and in the order I put it in :). If I forget where to find a specific track then I use the search function which will point me to the playlist directory. I just find playlists to be noticeably faster to access and its very smooth. While on the other menus I notice a slight lag in the menus. In all I guess it's minor. But via playlists it felt more like I was using an iDevice :). Also since I have everything setup via playlists it's as easy as syncing my device and being done with it. It still takes some time to load up 120 GBs of music but you don't do that everyday :). Plus since it's all automated I don't have to do it manually once it's all been created :). Keep in mind I set up Media Monkey to even name the music folders after the same names as my playlists. This makes everything extremely easy to navigate and update as I go. Simple as copy and paste and update the older playlist with the new info.
 
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 7:58 AM Post #10,222 of 13,503
Gotcha... I guess it comes down to what you like... For me, I have my albums archived by artist or composer in the case of classical except for compilations which have there own heading.

Anyway back to DX100s... Well I've finished reloading my library after reverting to 1.2.7 and its not missing a beat...so far. I do want to load Rhapsody and Pandora but in reality I can play them on my iPhone so might just keep all other apps off the DX for now until I have a picture of whether this play stop thing is gone.

BTW, I always used Native play for Gapless and SRC, EQ off etc.... And power source eg battery or brick made no difference that I recall and have definitely use both.
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 9:24 AM Post #10,223 of 13,503
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I've reset now and leaving it to index while it charges to 100%.
Once charged, we'll see what happens

 
Well that made no difference.
On battery I get the random stops after the 1st album plays - when plugged into the mains, it plays fine.
 
Time to revert to 1.2.7 - anyone got any instructions how to roll back?
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM Post #10,224 of 13,503
Tried to reproduce the random stop following the steps: 
 
1. Select an album and let it play to end
2. Select another album, let it play
3. The first track of 2nd album stopped after 2 mins.
4. Switch on the screen from sleep, track began to play again, but after a while, it stopped again.
 
After that, even choose another playlist to play, the track will stop after few mins. Shutdown and restart the dx100 again let the playlist play normal without any stoppage.
 
Fortunately, similar to lee, I mainly used playlist to play my songs instead of album, so I won't hit the random stop problem often. But as usual, ibasso will break something after they fixed something. They really need some more QC and regression tests before releasing their fw again.... 
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Jan 28, 2013 at 9:41 AM Post #10,225 of 13,503
Tried to reproduce the random stop following the steps: 

1. Select an album and let it play to end
2. Select another album, let it play
3. The first track of 2nd album stopped after 2 mins.
4. Switch on the screen from sleep, track began to play again, but after a while, it stopped again.

After that, even choose another playlist to play, the track will stop after few mins. Shutdown and restart the dx100 again let the playlist play normal without any stoppage.

Fortunately, similar to lee, I mainly used playlist to play my songs instead of album, so I won't hit the random stop problem often. But as usual, ibasso will break something after they fixed something. They really need some more QC and regression tests before releasing their fw again.... 
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Have you accomplished a factory reset after the firmware update? This seems to correct the random stoppages. My DX100 performed exactly as you describe until I did the reset. Since that, I have experienced no random stoppages regardless of how I set playback.
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 9:48 AM Post #10,226 of 13,503
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Have you accomplished a factory reset after the firmware update? This seems to correct the random stoppages. My DX100 performed exactly as you describe until I did the reset. Since that, I have experienced no random stoppages regardless of how I set playback.


I have factory reset many times - makes no difference
 
Jan 28, 2013 at 11:44 AM Post #10,230 of 13,503
On 1.2.7 now and no stopping issues.

Has anyone contacted iBasso to report this bug? I will be emailing them this evening to report my experience
 

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