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Dec 22, 2012 at 12:17 AM Post #5,671 of 101,172
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gibosi said:
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dsnuts said:
Go for the E11. It sounds great with the Ele. Plus you can use that as your portable amp.
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As I looked into this more, I realize that the E11 cannot be charged while listening.  It runs only on battery power. Since I will be using the ELE DAC and amp at my desktop (I don't even own a laptop), portability is not a requirement. Having it connected to a power source while listening is actually preferable.  I have noticed that Bravo amps have been very highly praised in this forum, specifically, the Bravo Ocean.  However, on Bravo's website, I also see the Bravo V2 which seems to be identical to the Ocean except for the metal case.  Since the cost of the V2 ($69.99) is only a bit more than half that of the Ocean ($129.99), the V2 just might be a great buy.  Has anyone here been able to compare these two to see if there are, in fact, any sonic differences?  What does almost twice the cost provide other than a better housing? Thanks!
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A hybrid tube amplifier is the way to go.  I have an Indeed G3 hybrid tube amplifier like this one:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Indeed-G3-Valve-Class-A-Hybrid-Headphone-Pre-Amplifier-NOS-5814-tube-USA-sixties-/250970005853?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item3a6efa615d
 
The seller used to have those on auction until a few months ago.  I got mine for $87.66 including shipping, in April.  They got as low as less than $70 in some auctions.  The sound of tube+solid state (that is why it is called a hybrid amplifier) amplification is superior to the sound of just a solid state amplifier.  Besides, you can get other tubes for your amplifier that will make it sound different with each tube.
 
With these Bravo and Indeed amps, quality control may be an issue.  I started having problems with the volume potentiometer in mine after 3 months.  In spite of that, it has been a good investment.
 
Dec 22, 2012 at 12:35 AM Post #5,673 of 101,172
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alberto01 said:
BTW, the world did not end on my location at the appointed time.  That gives me more time to enjoy my audio setup.
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LoL, i would assume the end of the world is global.
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Just a couple of hours to go here and it's gonna be the 22nd, guess no THE END here as well.
 
Dec 22, 2012 at 12:39 AM Post #5,674 of 101,172
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dsnuts said:
Agreed I think for the price everyone should have a pair. Try eQing them. They will surprise.
 
I read that the SHE3580 are no longer being made. So snap em up when you see em.
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I just did!  Not as low a price as you guys paid over stateside.....exchange rate and all...
I am happy
good phones to trash about without worry.
 
Dec 22, 2012 at 3:20 PM Post #5,675 of 101,172
kong said:
It's been 31 days since I ordered the ELE from eBay user travelinwind and there is no sign that it will arrive so I requested a refund. May try with another seller from Hong Kong or go with the SMSL Fort instead.
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I ordered from travelinwind as well and got a tracking number but just for the China leg of the shipment. I just got mine about 2 days ago. Ordered on the 27th of Nov. Shreveport, LA. So patience seems to be key.
 
Dec 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM Post #5,677 of 101,172
FYI I ordered a prodct from china, and it just arrived today, 3 days later than estimated date.  Just thought you dudes who are wondering if it's only your stuff thats late, would like to know.
 
Dec 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM Post #5,678 of 101,172
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alberto01 said:
 
A hybrid tube amplifier is the way to go.  I have an Indeed G3 hybrid tube amplifier like this one:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Indeed-G3-Valve-Class-A-Hybrid-Headphone-Pre-Amplifier-NOS-5814-tube-USA-sixties-/250970005853?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item3a6efa615d
 
The seller used to have those on auction until a few months ago.  I got mine for $87.66 including shipping, in April.  They got as low as less than $70 in some auctions.  The sound of tube+solid state (that is why it is called a hybrid amplifier) amplification is superior to the sound of just a solid state amplifier.  Besides, you can get other tubes for your amplifier that will make it sound different with each tube.
 
With these Bravo and Indeed amps, quality control may be an issue.  I started having problems with the volume potentiometer in mine after 3 months.  In spite of that, it has been a good investment.
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Thanks for your advice.  After reading up on it, the G3 seems like a very good amp for money. And if I was willing to spend $120 for an Ocean, I would definitely consider the G3.  However, this will be my very first amp, and being a noobie, I think it wise to keep my budget to $100 or less.  So if the V2 is identical to the Ocean, except for the housing, and it is only about $70, then I think it would be a great first amp for me.  Thanks again.
 
Dec 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM Post #5,679 of 101,172
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mreleventy said:
I ordered from travelinwind as well and got a tracking number but just for the China leg of the shipment. I just got mine about 2 days ago. Ordered on the 27th of Nov. Shreveport, LA. So patience seems to be key.
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I placed my order on the 22nd of Nov. And I live in Thailand so I'm kinda expecting that it would take less than 30 days to arrive... Also the table in the product page suggests that they will provide a refund if the delivery takes longer than 31 days, no?
 
For me, registered mail doesn't guarantee that you will receive the package, it just guarantee that the sender will get a refund if the package got lost
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Dec 23, 2012 at 9:53 AM Post #5,682 of 101,172
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kong said:
It's been 31 days since I ordered the ELE from eBay user travelinwind and there is no sign that it will arrive so I requested a refund. May try with another seller from Hong Kong or go with the SMSL Fort instead.
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If you are willing to go with the slightly higher price of the SMSL Fort, I'll say go for it.
The better SQ from the SMSL Fort over the ELE more than makes up for the extra few dollars.
 
DSnuts, have you ordered the SMSL Fort yet ?   ....can't wait to hear your comments on comparision with the Fire Pheonix.
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Dec 23, 2012 at 1:46 PM Post #5,684 of 101,172
As I keep looking and thinking about an amp to use with the ELE DAC, I am now wondering if I should consider upping my budget a little bit?  Has anyone has used this little DAC with an O2 (Objective2 headphone amp)?  It appears that I can get one of these for about the same price as a Bravo Ocean or Indeed G3 Hybrid.  
 
http://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/products.html
 
Your advice?
 
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