[waynes world]

What's the tts version Wayne?

 
Unfortunately that's the "Typical Tenore Syndrome" version where one driver starts playing at a muffled/lower volume than the other driver for some reason.
 
What are you enjoying these days Danny?

 

[leobigfield]

@Hisoundfi, i remember reading on Earfonia review of the CKR9 and CKR10 that at first he even didn't bother on doing a review because he found them to not be nice enough but changed his mind after burn-in. How many play time do they have (ALI-CKR9LTD?
 

Before burn-in, tonal balance is not very linear with some glaring treble.  But after 5 days burn-in or more, tonality improves significantly; treble peaks are totally ironed out. By the way, I'm not a fan of burn-in, and prefer IEM that sounds good out of the box, but for CKR9 and CKR10, burn-in process is a must.

I received new units from Audio Technica Singapore, when they just received them from AT Japan.
Frankly speaking, I told Audio Technica after a few days testing them, I might prefer not to review them, because they don't sound very good to me. But I told them, let's wait a few more days to burn-in those units, if I can hear any improvement. And they did improved quite a lot after 5 days full burn-in, and then I decided to review them.  Frankly I didn't like them when new, even after 1-2 days burn-in.  But after 24x5 burn-in, they sound much better. After that I continue to burn-in them till about 7 days.

 

[Hisoundfi]

I'm still burning them in. They do sound good I won't deny that. 
 
I found another set of tips that all but eliminates the driver flex on the ALI LTD ones. 
 
I'll keep you guys posted. 

 

[Hisoundfi]

Another day, another review...
 
http://www.head-fi.org/products/axgio-sprint-sound-isolating-sport-stereo-bluetooth-4-1-headphone-adjustable-memory-wire-security-fit-design-ipx4-sweat-proof-8h-battery-life-apt-x-wireless-earbuds-earphone-earpiece-headset-with-mic-black/reviews/14084
 
Peter did a great job covering these, but here's my two cents on them. Enjoy!

 

[Ap616]

Sorry but there is nothing special about Tenore and wasn't impressed with its timbre. If Ckr9ltd from aliexpress are genuine ones I can easily say that they will wipe the floor with Tenore because Ckr9 which I have is so special when it comes to timbre and bass quality. I guess I will get mine in one week and I will tell you whether it is the real deal or not.

Bass quality is definitely better than Tenore on my ALI-CKRLTD. However, I really like the timbre of Zero Audio products! Like I said before, the ALI-CKR9LTD doesn't have bad timbre by any means. The cymbals are right up there and/or better than the Tenore&Duoza. However, Duoza cymbals don't sound quite as real to me as Tenore or ALI-CKRLTD. I don't believe in burn-in really too much, but the bass has come out to play noticeably more after just a handful of hours on it. The midbass is actually quite a bit now, but it's of good quality as well as subbass. I feel like the CKR9LTD shouldn't have this much bass, but idk.
Hey @peter123, do the CKR9LTD and CKR10 have pretty big bass? @twister6 the CKR10? I know you're sensitive to midbass, Peter. I feel like these sure have "some" with burn-in... and might not be TOTL. Ah!!! I wish I had a for sure genuine one and this one to compare. 
@Hisoundfi  Hey Vince, what are your thoughts on the bass quantity/impact?

 

[nick n]

Unless I am seeing things those Zircon Rock things look like  the FSL ( Future Sound labs ) Zinc ZN30 things but with a little rear cap plate.
FSL have been around for a bit I wonder how reviews correlate...
I'm likely seeing things.

 

[DannyBai]

Unfortunately that's the "Typical Tenore Syndrome" version where one driver starts playing at a muffled/lower volume than the other driver for some reason.

What are you enjoying these days Danny?

I really like the DN2KJ a lot. Pono and various earphones and headphone balanced is very good.

 

[Hisoundfi]

Bass quality is definitely better than Tenore on my ALI-CKRLTD. However, I really like the timbre of Zero Audio products! Like I said before, the ALI-CKR9LTD doesn't have bad timbre by any means. The cymbals are right up there and/or better than the Tenore&Duoza. However, Duoza cymbals don't sound quite as real to me as Tenore or ALI-CKRLTD. I don't believe in burn-in really too much, but the bass has come out to play noticeably more after just a handful of hours on it. The midbass is actually quite a bit now, but it's of good quality as well as subbass. I feel like the CKR9LTD shouldn't have this much bass, but idk.
Hey @peter123
, do the CKR9LTD and CKR10 have pretty big bass? @twister6
 the CKR10? I know you're sensitive to midbass, Peter. I feel like these sure have "some" with burn-in... and might not be TOTL. Ah!!! I wish I had a for sure genuine one and this one to compare. 
@Hisoundfi
  Hey Vince, what are your thoughts on the bass quantity/impact?

That's the main reason I even question their authenticity. I really enjoy the midrange and treble tuning, but the bass seems slightly disjointed and unresolving as compared to my other higher end earphones. It's almost like it rumbles and lingers too long.

 

[peter123]

Sorry but there is nothing special about Tenore and wasn't impressed with its timbre. If Ckr9ltd from aliexpress are genuine ones I can easily say that they will wipe the floor with Tenore because Ckr9 which I have is so special when it comes to timbre and bass quality. I guess I will get mine in one week and I will tell you whether it is the real deal or not.

+1, I don't find the timbre on the Tenores to be anything special either.

Have to say, I'm in the minority on the Zero Tenore, agree with @Ozkan. Never found the tonality/timbre of them to be good, sound bleached out to me, removes tone color (incredible soundstage, though, also not real, though, exaggerated). Falls into the "different strokes for different folks" category, I suppose...

+1 again

 

[sodesuka]

   
Thanks for this!  I've found that, being a musician, timbre is VERY important to me, which is why Tenore is my favorite.  I'd like to upgrade, but the timbre has to be the same or better than Tenore.  I'll cross CKR9LTD off the list

I think you should consider Flare R2 line if you value timbre above all else. The R2S, the stainless steel version, is currently 50% with coupon code iirc.

 

[peter123]

Bass quality is definitely better than Tenore on my ALI-CKRLTD. However, I really like the timbre of Zero Audio products! Like I said before, the ALI-CKR9LTD doesn't have bad timbre by any means. The cymbals are right up there and/or better than the Tenore&Duoza. However, Duoza cymbals don't sound quite as real to me as Tenore or ALI-CKRLTD. I don't believe in burn-in really too much, but the bass has come out to play noticeably more after just a handful of hours on it. The midbass is actually quite a bit now, but it's of good quality as well as subbass. I feel like the CKR9LTD shouldn't have this much bass, but idk.
Hey @peter123
, do the CKR9LTD and CKR10 have pretty big bass? @twister6
 the CKR10? I know you're sensitive to midbass, Peter. I feel like these sure have "some" with burn-in... and might not be TOTL. Ah!!! I wish I had a for sure genuine one and this one to compare. 
@Hisoundfi
  Hey Vince, what are your thoughts on the bass quantity/impact?

They all got very impactfull and present bass. The CKR10's are a bit too much for me (upper bass) on some recordings /music but sound amazing with others. I also find the bass on the CKR10's slower compared to the regular CKR9's. The CKR9'S have the best bass I've ever heard in a IEM. Fast, impactfull and extremely tight without any bleed.

To me the bass on the CKR9LTD's are not as tight as the CKR9's but does never feel too much in mid/upper bass (like the CKR10's does sometimes) either.

I hope this makes sense

 

[B9Scrambler]

I've been sick all week which is affecting my hearing, but so far the CKR9LTDs I received from Ali sound and feel too good to be made from anything but legit parts.

I don't find the bass to be overpowering or overemphasized, I would give that honor to the mids if anything. The only aspect that I wish was different is the treble presentation. They lack the energy of the FXH30 which is really addictive and tons of fun.

 

[eaglearrow]

I've been sick all week which is affecting my hearing, but so far the CKR9LTDs I received from Ali sound and feel too good to be made from anything but legit parts.

I don't find the bass to be overpowering or overemphasized, I would give that honor to the mids if anything. The only aspect that I wish was different is the treble presentation. They lack the energy of the FXH30 which is really addictive and tons of fun.

I do not own any high end iems but from what i hear (ali LTDs), i get a feeling that this is how legit LTDs might sound like. To me, their performance surpasses the GR07BE's. JMHO.

 

[encoreAC]

 
where you bought those CK?  link?  Thanks!

I ordered my pair here: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Original-CKR9LTD-13mm-Dual-Driver-Dynamic-Noise-Isolating-Premuim-Solid-Bass-Stereo-Music-Earphone/32372413763.html
 
Still waiting for them. As discussed here, nobody knows 100% if they are fake or not.

 

[encoreAC]

I used to love my Tenore, but not anymore. Dunno if the sound changed over the time due to condensation or whatever, I have them almost 2 years now I guess. Switched to them after my KC06A broke and they sound very cramped and dull.
 
Regarding Duoza...I actually never really got into them. They sound okay, but in the end they never captivated me. 
 
My hopes lie on the Aliexpress CKR9LTD now. If they fail I will go back to the KC06A.
 
Meanwhile I am using the Yamaha EPH100. They sound much better than the Duoza/Tenore to me, but they seem to suffer from random channel imbalance occasionally.