Argo Duck
Formerly known as "AiDee"
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^ Good to hear. Congrats on the nice result with the Soloist.
Where you are on the pot is not based on power but gain and sweep curve.
Folks:
I know that Preproman has tried the Emotiva mini-x 50-wpc speaker amp with his LCD-3s via speaker taps and he liked it about as much as the MJ. Has anybody else tried that setup with LCD-3s, or tried any other Emotiva amp with speaker taps? Or any speaker amp with taps?
I'm interested in the speaker amp options for a couple of reasons. First is that you can get the mini-x for about $200, and two other 125-150- wpc Emotiva amps (UPA-200, XPA-200) are $500 or less, significantly less if they have another 4th of July sale (likely to happen, if history is a guide). Emo has a solid reputation for building really good stuff for low cost... So if I can get excellent performance for $500 or less, and I have the space for the amp, doesn't it make sense to look into it?
Second, I have been looking into Stax headphones, and the biggest weakness with them is that the amps are either crappy, DIY (or in my case, Can't DIY), or really expensive (like nearly $6,000 for a Blue Hawaii). But you can buy an energizer from Woo for $500, and while it isn't all that great according to some very authoritative Stax experts, others say it works well enough and scales with the amp... so if I can get an Emo and combine it with the Woo box... I might have a decent combo to drive some earspeakers. Or not, depending on who you ask. But it certainly has me thinking. Waaaay too much.
Finally, Emo has a new DAC, the XDA-2, that they claim has a high-quality headphone amp in it. Has anybody tried that option?
I have their XDA-1 DAC and I like it, though I have nothing to compare it to except the crappy sound board of my PC. But both the XDA-1 and XDA-2 are fully balanced, push-pull DACs (they also use the same AD1955 DAC), and if I use either one to feed the $500 XPA-200 which is also balanced, I end up with a fully balanced system for under $1K. Note that in addition to not having a headphone jack, my XDA-1 version has one serious limitation that would cause me to trade up to the -2 if I decide to go with a speaker amp: the -1 has a digital volume control, so unless I use it full volume, and use my Adcom pre-amp to control volume, I lose bits. But using the Adcom means losing the fully balanced system. The -2 does not use digital volume controls... and it does have that headphone amp... all for $400, without the savings from the sale-that-might-be.
As always, so many choices, so much ignorance on my part... Any experiences that anyone could share to help un-confuse me would be appreciated.
Prepro:
My intent is to compare mid-fi speaker amps <$500, to mid-fi headphone amps ~$750-1000. I'd like to know if Head-fiers are getting something for the extra bucks paid for headphone amps. If so, great, I'll likely fork over the extra bucks myself. If not, I'll buy a speaker amp and save some dollars. And if my Adcom pre-amp sounds as good to me as any of the amps I'll stick with it and consider the investment in the comparison test equipment to be my entertainment costs for the month of July. And maybe August. And perhaps September if I have to buy 3 different magic boxes.
And what is a magic box, you ask? A magic box is a custom set of resistors to match impedances between each amp and the LCDs, and to limit the power going to the headphones so that I don't blow them up. The latter is only a problem with the XPA-200, but there is a chance that all of the speaker amps will need some sort of adjustment to impedance to sound their best. I plan to discuss this with TBI and Emotiva over the next couple of days, to see what they recommend. If they recommend a special design, I need to know whether they will build a box to implement it, and of course what it will cost. If they don't want to build it, but will provide a schematic and parts list, I might try to build it myself, though more likely I will try to get somebody who actually knows how to build electronics to do it for me for a modest fee. I have never built anything electronic in my life, and I'm not sure that my first project should be something that could blow up my LCDs and hundreds of dollars in amps, so I would prefer that somebody else build the box.
I would love to include a Mjolnir in the comparison, though Schiit's return window is only 15 days, which might be cutting it a bit close. And it is another ~$50 bucks minimum, but hey, who's counting (wait... I am...). Oh well, what the hell... They're in -- assuming they can guarantee shipping so that the MJ gets here when the other stuff is here. The more stuff I try to coordinate, the more likely something is going to miss the comparison, which is why 15 days might not really be a long enough window. On the other hand, I know that at least the Adcom pre-amp will be here!
Man are my credit card companies gonna love me this summer...