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Jun 2, 2011 at 9:20 AM Post #271 of 1,167


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geruvah said:
I've no experience with the W3. I would suggest looking at the 170 IEMs reviewed and compare the W3 to the SM3 (even though it's v1, it's the same sound).
The new housing is way better in quality. It feels a little heavier, the plastic isn't as flimsy and looks more solidly built. I wish it was clear, but I definitely remember the v1 felt a little fragile (and turns out it really was). The plastic is a smooth finish.
 


 
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My mistake I meant the W4.
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 10:30 AM Post #272 of 1,167


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bigbuddha said:
If you read a few pages back there are some very good comparison reviews between the V1 and V2.  However, quickly the sound I think is basically the same, but because I am getting a better seal with using the V2, the bass response is improved, but I think only because of the improved seal as opposed to better sq from the actual unit themselves.
 
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Cool.
I think you are right about that. I think that the SM3 v2, sounds exactly the same as the v1.
But I can only guess, I only have the SM3 v1 :p
 
 
 
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM Post #274 of 1,167
@nickie Thanks for the info! 
 
If I do get them, what is the recommended "burn in" time, and what is the best way to do that ? I read somewhere here something about "pink noise" ..or I might be imagining things 

 
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 12:48 PM Post #275 of 1,167
I'm sure whatever differences anyone hears with the V2 owes to a slightly different fit/seal.

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Jun 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM Post #276 of 1,167
Just got mine!
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Comfort wise, they're head over heels above the SM3 V1 for my ears, owing to the smoothed out, rounded contour. They're also more snug within my ear, and provide slightly better bass impact. Needless to say, YMMV of course. As for me, I'm sold.
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Jun 2, 2011 at 3:04 PM Post #278 of 1,167


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go0gle said:
 
If I do get them, what is the recommended "burn in" time, and what is the best way to do that ? I read somewhere here something about "pink noise" ..or I might be imagining things 

 
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I dont believe in burnin but i do believe in bad seal, bad fitting, and difficulties of finding suitable settings and tips  that most users have to experience in their first week of a new purchase .... may be thats the whole mystery of it ?
Even if its there are such things as burnin then i dont think pinknoise is really necessary for in-ear, its just your ears adapting to the new sound :)
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM Post #279 of 1,167


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nickie said:
 
I dont believe in burnin but i do believe in bad seal, bad fitting, and difficulties of finding suitable settings and tips  that most users have to experience in their first week of a new purchase .... may be thats the whole mystery of it ?
Even if its there are such things as burnin then i dont think pinknoise is really necessary for in-ear, its just your ears adapting to the new sound :)
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I'm not going to go too deep into this, nor am I going to argue past this post, it can be your ears adapting to new sound, but why is it that when I exchanged my ADDIEMs (lost 1 tip; they replaced the whole headset :p), I heard a drastic change in sound from 1+ month old to brand new?  Same tips, same seal, ears adapted already.  Then after a few weeks, the sound changed back...  There has to be something to explain it, even if it isn't burn in (which I did do), what could it be?  In other words, what else can cause a change in sound, I tested both of your hypothesis with the exchange of the ADDIEMs with opposite results that you predicted.
 
@Go0gle: I normally burn in my BAs for about 50-100 hours; dynamics are normally burned from 50-200 hours.  Also, many manufacturers also will tell you how long they think you should burn in for, just ask them :)
 
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 4:12 PM Post #280 of 1,167
The following image was taken straight from my Monster Turbine Pro Copper's manual; page 8:
 

 
Indeed, while some manufacturers do recommend a burn-in/break-in period, there will always be skepticism behind it, since there's no solid clear-cut proof that burn-in offers a significant improvement, and it varies from IEM to IEM. Nevertheless, the SM3 is infamous for break-in, and I personally did hear a difference post burn-in (50+ hours) versus out of the box. To each his own. The fit/seal are just as crutial factors as supposed burn-in tends to be, and I believe it's the fit/seal that contributes most to the listener acclimating to the earphones, opposed to the other way around.
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Jun 2, 2011 at 5:13 PM Post #281 of 1,167
My V1 should be getting here tomorrow and I was just wondering if you guys thought it would be worth it to upgrade to the V2 if I find the fit/comfort/seal to be good with the V1? It seems that there is no difference besides this with all of the mini-reviews here.
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM Post #282 of 1,167
Depends entirely on you my friend. If you're content with the V1's fit/comfort/seal, then there's really no absolute need for you to purchase the V2, as it really only offers improvement in those very regards (excluding the removable cable). It's that very reason I purchased the V2, since it bares a resemblance to the Wesones, which I'm all too fond of.
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Jun 2, 2011 at 5:29 PM Post #283 of 1,167


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zeusaudio said:
My V1 should be getting here tomorrow and I was just wondering if you guys thought it would be worth it to upgrade to the V2 if I find the fit/comfort/seal to be good with the V1? It seems that there is no difference besides this with all of the mini-reviews here.
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If they feel comfortable and you're happy with how they fit, unless you're going to be mountain climbing or doing daily 10 mile runs with them, probably will be safe with sticking with the v1 and pocketing the savings.
 
That said, if they don't fit how you want or if you perhaps are more active with them and need something more durable... or you just want the newest, shiniest toy all the time, upgrade to v2 is a solid option.
 
Appears sound wise (*without regards to different insertion/fit)they are identical, so non-factor here.
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 10:32 PM Post #284 of 1,167
Part of me wants this.  The other part, a JH-3a.  For sure, I know the sm3 v1 fit me very well.  I only hated the short Y-split and undetacheable cable.  The sound reminded me of my HD650's without the congestion of the TF10's.
 
Jun 2, 2011 at 11:35 PM Post #285 of 1,167
Just thought I'm mention, I've been wearing the V2's for nearly 5 straight hours, without any issues. To anyone with the V1's considering the V2's, if your ears are anything like mine and feel discomfort on occasion with the V1's, the V2's completely eliminated that issue for me. The best comparison I'd make would be to that of my Westones (W3/W4), which the V2's seal and comfort mimics very closely. I use the large comply foams (same ones included with any Westones), so the seal is as good as I'd imagine for it to be for my ears. All in all, I'm loving it!
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