[spurxiii]

The bass of the SE215 is a big jump over the GR07 BE, but I wouldn't say it was better. The bass of the SE215 is the reason I got rid of mine, its just too much

 

[Tom22]

 
big jump as in what??

yes i meant the bass lol sorry the se215 has more bass in terms of mid bass especially. its a thick and slow compare to the be edition.  (but thats because the gr07 has some of the cleanest fastest bass i ever heard) 
 
mind you this is from memory not exactly the best obviously. 
 
and the overall sound signature is different 
 
the se215 is more mellow, theres a lack of treble extension compare to the more aggressive thin treble on the gr07
 
but if you like a thicker more mellow sound (bassy) the se215 is hard to beat at that price (along with some other goodies, detachable cables, the olive foams (best foams imo, for price to performance ratio) as well as the thick and long cables

 

[sardar17]

  yes i meant the bass lol sorry the se215 has more bass in terms of mid bass especially. its a thick and slow compare to the be edition.  (but thats because the gr07 has some of the cleanest fastest bass i ever heard) 
 
mind you this is from memory not exactly the best obviously. 
 
and the overall sound signature is different 
 
the se215 is more mellow, theres a lack of treble extension compare to the more aggressive thin treble on the gr07
 
but if you like a thicker more mellow sound (bassy) the se215 is hard to beat at that price (along with some other goodies, detachable cables, the olive foams (best foams imo, for price to performance ratio) as well as the thick and long cables

yes thats what i am telling him
 
there is no harm in trying 215 at least as the signature is very non fatiguing,,,plus it has tonnes of bass without treble sparkle.
the above poster wants something better than gr07 mk2 as far as bass is concerned.

 

[Tom22]

 
yes thats what i am telling him
 
there is no harm in trying 215 at least as the signature is very non fatiguing,,,plus it has tonnes of bass without treble sparkle.
the above poster wants something better than gr07 mk2 as far as bass is concerned.

forgive me for the misunderstanding i hope you don't take this the wrong way,
 
but i personally don't think the se215's bass is "better"
 
quantity theres more, but i think the vsonics bass quality is better. i think its easier to get past the midbass and really appreciate the depth of the bass compare to the se215 which i found was very very punchy
 
maybe try the yamaha eph100?

 

[sardar17]

  forgive me for the misunderstanding i hope you don't take this the wrong way,
 
but i personally don't think the se215's bass is "better"
 
quantity theres more, but i think the vsonics bass quality is better. i think its easier to get past the midbass and really appreciate the depth of the bass compare to the se215 which i found was very very punchy
 
maybe try the yamaha eph100?

i personally agree with u mate
 
i think even mk2 has perfect bass,nothing more and nothing less.
but some ppl like my own cousin just love the se 215 bass,,they just don't want anything less even when it can partly cloud the mids

 

[sardar17]

  forgive me for the misunderstanding i hope you don't take this the wrong way,
 
but i personally don't think the se215's bass is "better"
 
quantity theres more, but i think the vsonics bass quality is better. i think its easier to get past the midbass and really appreciate the depth of the bass compare to the se215 which i found was very very punchy
 
maybe try the yamaha eph100?

yes eph 100 may be better compromise than se 215,i agree

 

[sardar17]

can i post one thing offtopic??
can someone tell me at what volume of clip+ are they comfortable on an average??
 
ppl are telling me -25 to -30 is fine but with gr07 i am at -12 to -18

 

[modulor]

  can i post one thing offtopic??
can someone tell me at what volume of clip+ are they comfortable on an average??
 
ppl are telling me -25 to -30 is fine but with gr07 i am at -12 to -18

Not sure if the measurements changes with themes at all in Rockbox, but I typically listen between -6 and -12 depending on the situation (with the MKII that is) - when I had the BE, it was about the same IIRC.

 

[sardar17]

  Not sure if the measurements changes with themes at all in Rockbox, but I typically listen between -6 and -12 depending on the situation (with the MKII that is) - when I had the BE, it was about the same IIRC.

thanks man,,,some ppl were listening at -30 and i thought maybe i was getting deaf or something

 

[ZV3]

  yes i meant the bass lol sorry the se215 has more bass in terms of mid bass especially. its a thick and slow compare to the be edition.  (but thats because the gr07 has some of the cleanest fastest bass i ever heard)
 
mind you this is from memory not exactly the best obviously.
 
and the overall sound signature is different
 
the se215 is more mellow, theres a lack of treble extension compare to the more aggressive thin treble on the gr07
 
but if you like a thicker more mellow sound (bassy) the se215 is hard to beat at that price (along with some other goodies, detachable cables, the olive foams (best foams imo, for price to performance ratio) as well as the thick and long cables

 
I was not aware that the Bass, Mids or Treble of the SE 215's were in the same league as the GR07's, nor better in some areas?

 

[sardar17]

   
I was not aware that the Bass, Mids or Treble of the SE 215's were in the same league as the GR07's, nor better in some areas?

bass is more but is not as tight and awesome

 

[Tom22]

   
I was not aware that the Bass, Mids or Treble of the SE 215's were in the same league as the GR07's, nor better in some areas?

no no 
 
i was merely comparing them 
 
imo the gr07be is leagues ahead of the se215 ( i think its a better comparison because its the "bass enhanced version"> mk2) plus i don't have experience with mk2
 
the bass is bigger in quantity, its not as tight as the gr07 i find. plus its slower imo, so makes the sound thick. not the best for the most complex music
 
the mids i found more emphasis on the lower mids for the se215 but aside from that i did not find them anything really special, might be a bit forward > gr07 which are natural with little to no colouration
 
the treble the gr07 is by far better. more control more extension more sparkle. but can be siblant to others or depending on the track. the se215 is non fatiguing however, so if your really treble sensitive the se215 is probably the way to go. 
 
remember this is just from memory but i just find the se215 dull compare to the gr07 but better for more slower music and relaxing music. gr07 is better for medium-fast music.
 
but the se215 has the build down in spades > gr07 (which is not bad in its own right) but the cables on the se215 is thicker and replacable plus i love the shure olive foams, because of the fantastic isolation and enhances the bass in a tasteful way =) > complys just imoo

 

[129207]

Purchased the GR07 Classic Color Edition for $125 incl. shipping from Ebay as an upgrade from my trusty old Hifiman RE0, that I still enjoy very much. Have been using that baby since 2009.  
 

 
Now the waiting game is on. Will be pairing it with my Headstage Arrow/Clip Zip. Still looking for a new DAP after selling my Sony X1050. Temporarily back to the Rockboxed Zip now. 

 

[sardar17]

  Purchased the GR07 Classic Color Edition for $125 incl. shipping from Ebay as an upgrade from my trusty old Hifiman RE0, that I still enjoy very much. Have been using that baby since 2009.  
 

 
Now the waiting game is on. Will be pairing it with my Headstage Arrow/Clip Zip. Still looking for a new DAP after selling my Sony X1050. Temporarily back to the Rockboxed Zip now. 

i think u need a good burn in bro,,,at the start they will be intolerable to u as u are coming from re0.

 

[129207]

 
i think u need a good burn in bro,,,at the start they will be intolerable to u as u are coming from re0.

 
Why would they be intolerable to me, coming from a Hifiman RE0?