[Mainian]

Well, I decided the $200 difference wasn't really worth the replaceable cables. 

I don't plan on working out in these anyways, they will be purely for studying / on my desk. Anywways, I'm going to compare them to my Shure SE215's. And see if I can really tell the difference. 

Still going to use my Bose for working out though.

Edit: What's the general break in period for the w4's anyways?

 

[xaddictionx]

Sound is subjective. When I had mt se535ltdj and both baldur and dream cable the sound coming out of the 535 were disernably different. The pure silver cable had more of a analytical sound while the baldur spc had more of a dynamic sound.

I compared the westone epic cable to a spc cable and also found the differences in sound to be discern able. Where the silver plated copper offfered slightly more brightness to the sound signature and the mids and highs also had more extension. Where the epic cable seemed to offer a more laid back warm and slighlty veiled sound.

Im not agreeing or disagreeing. Sound is subjective everyone may have the same or different expierence.

I also dont think the stocl cable is bad in any way just personally not my taste in subjective sound.

+1. Same experience here when switching around the cables on my w4r.

 

[heart banger-97]

+1. Same experience here when switching around the cables on my w4r.

Sound is subjective. When I had mt se535ltdj and both baldur and dream cable the sound coming out of the 535 were disernably different. The pure silver cable had more of a analytical sound while the baldur spc had more of a dynamic sound.

I compared the westone epic cable to a spc cable and also found the differences in sound to be discern able. Where the silver plated copper offfered slightly more brightness to the sound signature and the mids and highs also had more extension. Where the epic cable seemed to offer a more laid back warm and slighlty veiled sound.

Im not agreeing or disagreeing. Sound is subjective everyone may have the same or different expierence.

I also dont think the stocl cable is bad in any way just personally not my taste in subjective sound.

I notice a difference in sound simply by plugging in different recess adaptor plugs so I can imagine that there are cable differences. It seems that there would be a lot of variables. Will the difference be positive or negative depending on source player or genre? Is the difference worth the expense? What is the return policy for cables in case I don't like (or can't hear) the difference?

It's tough first finding "the earphone" and matching it with "the source". It will be years down the line before I take on a new project like finding "the cable". If I find "the earphone", I'm going to enjoy the crap out of my music for quite some time without a care in the world.:etysmile:

You just change the sound signature
There are another ways to changing that, using another tips, another eq setting, resistance adapter and also another amp
Eq, tips and resistance adapter are more efficient way to changing sound signature ( thanks Inks for sharing his information)
The desired amount of each frequency ( I call this sound signature) is subjective, but the sound quality, is not.

 

[Inks]

33-100ohms adapter, grey knowles dampers and either Shure Olives shallow or Phonak silicone or T400 inserted a semi-deep are the best set-ups. NO need for silly cables. Grey knowles damper isn't a must though.

 

[heart banger-97]

Are phonak silicone ear tips available any more?
I'm looking for the large size, but it seems that they are no longer available, I just found medium or small size,

 

[heart banger-97]

Plz delete this post

 

[Inks]

Try earphone solutions, otherwise I may have a spare

 

[ericr]

They still have them at soundearphones.com (free shipping too).

 

[truckdriver]

Quote:

You just change the sound signature
There are another ways to changing that, using another tips, another eq setting, resistance adapter and also another amp
Eq, tips and resistance adapter are more efficient way to changing sound signature ( thanks Inks for sharing his information)
The desired amount of each frequency ( I call this sound signature) is subjective, but the sound quality, is not.

 
If I knew about a tire than helped a vehicle get 10 more miles to the gallon, I would do demos for all auto manufacturers. A cable that “improves sound quality” should be demonstrated to all (or at least the major) IEM manufacturers.

 

[heart banger-97]

They still have them at soundearphones.com (free shipping too).

Thanks, unfortunately they don't have the large ones, they just have medium and small
Earphone solution is the only place that has large one (as I know) but it is also more expensive than others

 

[Skullbox]

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Are phonak silicone ear tips available any more?
I'm looking for the large size, but it seems that they are no longer available, I just found medium or small size,

Hi,  Is Sony hybrid silicone tips mod. or Shure (oldy) E2c silicone tips mod.  can do the job to?  Is Phonack sili tips make a huge difference in sound quality? Phonak tips seem to be hard to reach here either in country!

 

[Skullbox]

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33-100ohms adapter, grey knowles dampers and either Shure Olives shallow or Phonak silicone or T400 inserted a semi-deep are the best set-ups. NO need for silly cables. Grey knowles damper isn't a must though.

I have visiting the Knowles website and for this adapter am confuse!  Theres' is no 33 ohms adapter there. Grey adapter is 330 ohms, no 33 ohms!  Can you send me the links for these special plug adapters, if you found one?!  Is there a distributor available in my country!? Audeo-Phonak PFE232 iem and Shure new SE484 haves, come stock with these kind of dampers plugs!
Maybe it will be more easy to sold my W4r to get the PFE232.. or Shure new flagship! For now, am happy enough with my Sony hybrid mod tips, Shure E2c hybrid sili tips, and Star tips!
Have found in my old Shure some yellow or green plugs already manuf installed in the noozle tube. Have some spare of these! I have to think, to figure if it will fit or enhence the freq .....
 

 

[Inks]

33ohm is the resistor not the damper

 

[RapidPulse]

Just got the 4r.  And I have to say:  using it with 75ohm Ety adapter and phonak tips has led to best performance/comfort ratio of any earphone I have ever tried.
Amen to the shallow seal!
 
Thanks Inks.

 

[Skullbox]

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33ohm is the resistor not the damper

Ok I see thanks!  Now What about the "grey knowles dampers" you talk in your post ? What is the right model number or color  will be ideal for my w4r? I suppose you already got one installed in your phone!